What Shujin said. They being banned is probably another reason to make this thread lose credit, since those people made numerous inputs. Sooo... Slydria, Chaos, Dyst.

Someone, anyone...

Can we have this thread deleted and another one made solely for the purpose of re-focusing this shit fest back to the balance-fu requested?

An average trashman walks over, looks at the rows of useless paper and plucks them all out, claiming those for himself.

"Oh hey, new paper to wipe my cheeks with!"

Looks like this is all history now. And a pretty bad one.

I tricond Catabur's post.

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Further description added anyway.

Black Beasts Raid seem to be disappearing immediately after the normal Black Beast assault ends.

Oh well. Badly Beaten needs to be changed to get a duration of 5 rounds, and reduce momentum by X (X = equal to current duration left), along with reducing the debuffed person's healing received by (X * 20)%. Imo, I'd rather have 'actual' revives being attributed to invocation spells, not basic magi...

Still good, though. If you don't want fight in this 'open battle', then just nyoom away. Unless you're a tank. Then well... Eventually those swap-outs will end.

Plus, this could warrant making Flee become a static 25% chance for 'lonewolves', as a penalty, so it's not really a reliable tactic.

I support the OP. Prolonging 4v4 fights forever even after you beat someone down is just well... retarded as fuck. (hoo hee I make this fight last forever becos "temwork toctics". Goddamn it Meep.) Second Chance even became a meme now. "Second Chance, Third Chance, Fourth Chance... et...

I thought the same, Sawrock. People who 'abandon ship' shouldn't get back in it.

This is mostly less because of IC reasons, and more in a case where you need to AFK in PvP, which is ass when the fights are 4x4.