Great Reckoning Discussion

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Re: Great Reckoning Discussion

Postby Neus » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:39 am

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Server is up for a few hours. I added/adjusted all of the base class skills.

Mage (Fir, Vyd, Miu, Rye, Isendo, Stone Dragon, Explosion, Air Pressure, Famiuga)
Rogue (Fire Trap, Ice Trap, Gust Trap, Steal)
Curate (Graft, Holy Arrow, Kel, Solar Lance)
Martial Artist (Peddling Wheel, Heaven Kick, Light Tomahawk, Meditate)
Soldier (Shinken, Thousand Stab, Incise, Turnover, Roundtrip, Mad Chop, Retreating Swipe, Execute) - including changing to the new defense proc for multi-hits that pre-emptively applied it for cosmetic purposes
Duelist (Crystal Rose, Cyclone Spear, Lance de Lion, Riposte)
Archer (Starbow, Aerial Razor, Fortune Wind, Entangle Trap, Fire Arrows, Ice Arrows)

Is the full list. Please check these for issues, verify the damage they deal is accurate, discuss if any of them deal too much/too little damage (with details), etc.

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Re: Great Reckoning Discussion

Postby Spoops » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:00 am

Alright, descriptions, I'm not alone in saying that the sudden change in descriptions is unsettling, despite a slight bias against them I ask of you to revert them to normal, but I know that endeavor is fruitless, so I propose something else, instead, making them look a lot better than they do now, I've been photoshopping for at least 10 years now, it must be, so I have come up with a couple prototypes to the description layout in order to give it a bit more appeal..And I am likely to make more if you dislike them or cannot make them work in game, though I beg of you to try, descriptions are about 25% of discovering a character, 50% with the ooc notes and history if someone decides to fills those out.

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First and foremost, adding the ability to customize the background picture, it allows for making stuff such as this, it looks clean and very simple, the buttons are added above the window so that they do not get in the way, and the left side is left open for the player to play around with their picture a bit, overall I think this would be the best addition, but I get it, some people don't wanna just make big background type pictures for their profiles and would rather use the default system, well that's simple too by adding this whenever someone decides to add a picture themself.

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The window you had before, except repositioned a little bit, this would also give a simple, clean look.

What do you think? I can upload a .psd if you'd like one of those too.

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Re: Great Reckoning Discussion

Postby Rendar » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:37 am

Spo, the great savior. Please, do it.
Galeon Zviera's turn.
Critical Hit! Galeon Zviera attacks Jammer with Floating Red Letter and hits them!
Jammer takes 8420 Pierce damage.

Tiny Fawn Girl recovered 8550 HP.
Isabelline recovered 8550 HP.


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Re: Great Reckoning Discussion

Postby Kameron8 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:30 am

We desperately need a subforum for the beta balance fu, like we have for bug reports. There's so much to talk about, and it's so disorganized shoving it all in one thread.

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Re: Great Reckoning Discussion

Postby Rendar » Sat Jun 04, 2016 3:12 am

@Dev Also; of note. Can we have the In battle double click fixed up?

Currently it isn't displaying the 3 new stats, which can cause a bit of a hassle.

Thanks.
Galeon Zviera's turn.
Critical Hit! Galeon Zviera attacks Jammer with Floating Red Letter and hits them!
Jammer takes 8420 Pierce damage.

Tiny Fawn Girl recovered 8550 HP.
Isabelline recovered 8550 HP.


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Re: Great Reckoning Discussion

Postby Someone » Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:58 am

I really dislike (hate) the new description layout. It may be organized, but you can currently do all of that, AND MORE, with html in the current description style. Everyone can have their own unique profile, the way they like it... This new profile thing, just seems like it'll be putting everyone in the same box to look the same. In a RP game that's not a good thing.

Maybe it could be a toggle option... Legacy Description..
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Re: Great Reckoning Discussion

Postby Lolzytripd » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:12 pm

Dev is just literally sick of people

A) putting music in descrips
B) the lag it is capable of producing
C) The possible malicious uses of the current system

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Re: Great Reckoning Discussion

Postby Rendar » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:24 pm

But it lags with or without music.

He literally put in an auto-play music option for the new profiles.

That's never really happened, but there was potential.

Just use one of Spo's things. (not like people still can't find a way around it but hey. Worth a shot)
Galeon Zviera's turn.
Critical Hit! Galeon Zviera attacks Jammer with Floating Red Letter and hits them!
Jammer takes 8420 Pierce damage.

Tiny Fawn Girl recovered 8550 HP.
Isabelline recovered 8550 HP.


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Re: Great Reckoning Discussion

Postby Maikito » Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:51 am

As a person who's created many HTML-heavy description, I'll admit I'm a little saddened to see them go. However, I fully understand why Dev did what he did to the previous HTML profile layout. But, that doesn't mean the current one isn't without flaw either. I have a few suggestions that I feel would improve the new examine system's design and overall appeal.

Please consider the following:

1)Allowing for the buttons within the profile to have multiple color schemes. Due to the fact that, not every image is going to match very well with the standard yellow/gold buttons you've set forth, and it would be nice to have a certain degree of individuality within the profiles.

2)Changing the Portrait dimensions. I think Spoops brought this up on OOC once on the beta server, or someone else did. But the fact of the matter is that the dimensions that you have set now are a bit odd as not all images can exactly work well within those particular parameters. Maybe making it a bit bigger or smaller would be nice, or being able to remove the portrait entirely so we can HTML the background into our images would be nice.

3)Offering alternative layouts. This would probably be more trouble than it's worth, but it'd be nice to once again have a little bit of that variety in the descriptions. If you're short on ideas, I'm sure the community would gladly submit several mock-up designs for possible layouts that you could create. Like perhaps adjusting the portrait to instead be of ""Landscape" resolution, and then having the buttons and description text being displaying below that.

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Re: Great Reckoning Discussion

Postby Neus » Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:48 pm

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We're back for a few hours.

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Skill Conversions:

Tactician (Field Medic, Dualpower)
Black Knight (Checkmate, Board Shaker, Bright Bishop, Crescent Rook, Stalemate, Prophlyaxis, Sudden Death)
Demon Hunter (Chaser, Rising Tide, Elemental Rave, Wild Ride)
Grand Summoner (Judgement Blade)
Bonder (Riagri, Infernal Summon, Healing Discharge)
Engineer (Medibot, Flamethrower, Grenade Launcher, Repair, Overclock)
Void Assassin (Fray, Black Bolt, Detogate, Deadly Arms, Blotch)
Spellthief (Snatch Spell, Blue Steal)
Magic Gunner (Stand Off, Arcane Gun)
Arbalest (Oil Chain, Violent Reaction)
Monk (Dense Thunder, Sky Chariot, Setting Sun, Dragon Gale, Terra Strike, Kadouha, Aid, Golden Glow)
Verglas (Rising Kick, Point Kick, Cold Front, Icicle Spear, Crawling Spikes, Expanding Ice, Axe Kick, Face Stomp, Rapid Kick, Ice Point, Ice Point Greaves)
Kensei (Kagekiri, Toiken, Hirazuki, Raijinken, Sharenzan, Wazabane, Absolute Pace, Blade Barrier, Hidden Cut, Tekagen, Sacred Art, Counter Edge)
Ghost (Sanguine Star, Ghostwind, Death Gaze, Reaper Scythe, Wraithguard, Rebound, Gravestone, Dark Imbue, Pain Tolerance)
Lantern Bearer (Salamander, Fenrir, Typhur, Golem, Altera, Skyhigh, Raging Flame)
Priest (Holy Spark, Shine Ray, Needle, Gentle Torrent, Divine Shower, Divine Judgement, Devocation, God Rod)
Evoker (Sear, Libegrande, Magaisendo, Wind Slasher, Ryemei, Exgalfa, Itensify Cold, Isenshi, Vydel, Overload)
Hexer (Black Bubble, Underworld Flame, Wretched Oil, Fleeing Spectre, Black Static, Eternal Darkness, Earthbound Vengeance, Spirit Pain, Dark Invasion)

Other:

- Legend extend resets point distribution.
- Faith death penalty reductions added.
- Growth text from talents removed.
- Guile now affects Lightning crits (Lightning crits base is 100%+Guile%, may increase the base at some point, who knows)

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This means that all non-Youkai, non-Monster skills have been converted. If I overlooked one, please mention it.


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