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Protect your mommy!...Please?

Postby Shujin » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:34 pm

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I can´t seem to make my metal aegis nor my shineknights block attacks for me.

The arena combatant used Ether invitation on me, later a normal attack, none of those were blocked by them. I didn´t find anything infact that was blocked by them so I assume protect is broken.

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Re: Protect your mommy!...Please?

Postby Neus » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:37 pm

Does debug mode give any useful info?

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Re: Protect your mommy!...Please?

Postby Shujin » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:23 pm

Okay this is behaving a bit weird overall. So I managed to trigger it now with Lau dela. Basic attack with a hakouhen worked aswell.(here it´s a player using the attacks)
Debug: Before Use Skill called. Icy Scientist, Chiona, L'au-Dela, 1
Debug: Protect - Checking Icy Scientist.
Debug: Protect - Checking Shine Knight.
Debug: Protect - Same party.
Debug: Protect - Is on. 0||1||0
Debug: Protect - Checking Metalaegis.
Debug: Protect - Same party.
Debug: Protect - Is on. 0||1||0
Debug: Protect - Checking Chiona.
Debug: Protect - Checking Shine Knight.
Debug: Protect - Same party.
Debug: Protect - Is on. 0||1||0

However it plays the animation and damages everyone who has protect on and is a in range so in this case all the protect mobs got damaged.

But when I used Power Gradiation or Wazabane it suddenly didn´t work anymore. Same with Sidecut.
And did only spit something out that didn´t seem to be related to Protect.
Debug: Mercalan Mist Bonus Evade: 0
Debug: Before Use Skill called. Icy Scientist, Chiona, Power Gradation, 1
Debug: Mercalan Mist Bonus Evade: 0
Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 150 Slash damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Tough Fur; 0
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0

Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 100 Slash damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Tough Fur; 0
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0

Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 100 Slash damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Tough Fur; 0
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0

Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 100 Slash damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Tough Fur; 0
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0

Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 100 Slash damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Tough Fur; 0
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0
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Re: Protect your mommy!...Please?

Postby Spoops » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:36 pm

For the record, I don't know how relevant this info is but Ill say it anyway, Protect has always acted weird with Monster AI, probably due to the way they target things specifically.

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Re: Protect your mommy!...Please?

Postby MegaBlues » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:29 pm

From what I found so long ago, Protect can usually be triggered against players, but never against monsters.

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Re: Protect your mommy!...Please?

Postby Shujin » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:48 pm

In PvP it also seems to work in a very weird fashion, as mentioned above.

But I have a question, when is protect now supposed to work even? I mean against which type of attacks? To my knowledge it got changed to intercept with autohits now aswell, aslong as they are still in melee range of the person they want to protect and the attack isn´t an AoE.

Is it even supposed to intercept attacks like Sidecut?

I am sure it should atleast block Power Gradiation or Wazabane, which it currently doesn´t seem to block. Atleast not Metal Aegis or Shine Knight. I didn´t test the player version of Protect yet, since I assume they are the same.

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Re: Protect your mommy!...Please?

Postby Kameron8 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:56 am

This thread has some more relevant information you can use. Ether Invitation won't be blocked unless the person defending has Claret Call on themself, after the update to Protect a long while back. That's not to say it will work at all, however.

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Re: Protect your mommy!...Please?

Postby Neus » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:16 pm

So is the issue exclusive to monsters?

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Re: Protect your mommy!...Please?

Postby Shujin » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:53 am

No it´s also in PvP

But I haven´t found a monster yet that would be blocked by a metal aegis either.

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Re: Protect your mommy!...Please?

Postby Neus » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:54 am

Does this still occur?


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