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Needle + Spellthief

Postby Kameron8 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:16 am

Needle is doing zero damage for every needle when stolen by a Spellthief that's a destiny rogue. Here is all the relevant information I have:

1. The Spellthief was a destiny rogue, and therefore had no way to put points into needle.
2. The Spellthief had 5/5 points in Overload Copy, and a casting implement with some light attack.
3. A second, non-destiny'd, Spellthief stole Needle and was able to inflict damage with it without any trouble. They had 5/5 points in Needle, since that portion of the class board wasn't locked out for them.
4. The second Spellthief had 0/5 pooints in Overload Copy.

So unless Overload Copy is causing issues with Needle, destiny rogue may be interacting with it in a way that breaks it. The character in question does not do low enough damage to have Needle hit zero damage naturally from anything like Magic Armor.

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Re: Needle + Spellthief

Postby Snake » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:55 pm

That happens because Needle and stolen spells use /your/ skill level, apparently? Being a Destiny Rogue without being a Mage/Curate/Summoner/whatever-has-magic-to-spend-points-on is going to make you inefficient and period.
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Re: Needle + Spellthief

Postby Spoops » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:25 pm

Snake wrote:That happens because Needle and stolen spells use /your/ skill level, apparently? Being a Destiny Rogue without being a Mage/Curate/Summoner/whatever-has-magic-to-spend-points-on is going to make you inefficient and period.


Destiny Rogue is supposed to count you as having max rank in all spells you have stolen, this happened a long time ago.

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Re: Needle + Spellthief

Postby Kameron8 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:36 pm

It does count as max rank for most spells. Wretched Oil applies poison level 30 even though I never put a point into it, etc.

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Re: Needle + Spellthief

Postby DankDarkSol » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:49 pm

Yeah this is a bug, as most other skills in the game if you steal/grab them some other method such as Vydel, Steal, or others like that, and have destiny on, it'll go off of max level. I wonder if there are other skills like this that you wouldn't normally have, but could be possible now.

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Re: Needle + Spellthief

Postby Neus » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:19 am

Is there a character key + slot that I can download to quickly test this out with?

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Re: Needle + Spellthief

Postby Kameron8 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:00 am

Sure. The character no longer has needle, so you'll need to steal it again.

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Re: Needle + Spellthief  Topic is solved

Postby Neus » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:01 am

This has been corrected.


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