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Re: Tarnada

Postby Spoops » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:23 pm

Seeing people get instantly gibbed by builds centered around this sword is still increasingly frustrating to watch.

I'd suggest making the Vydel cast from Tarnada be a spell seperate from an Evoker's Vydel, that way it does not gain Charge Mind/Greaper and Talvyd bonuses, that'd be the best solution to this sword's biggest problem.

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Re: Tarnada

Postby Snake » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:27 pm

Just get the damage capped at 250 if the effect comes from Tarnada.

Disregard this. This thing is an absurd. You need to have a very, very specific setup to counter it. And when this is paired with stuff like Oracles, who can't miss a basic hit like ever, it really becomes a case of "25% chance to end the fight in one sidecut". This can get petty as hell, because after the tornado, you take a butt-load damage and get knocked down.

Can Silence stop the Vydel effect from Tarnada, at the very least?
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Re: Tarnada

Postby Slydria » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:56 pm

The way Tarnada is right now pigeonholes you into going Kensei/Evoker with an offhand tome, which just leads to the ridiculous combination of Charge Mind and attack until you trigger the free Vydel.

So I think it would be best if Tarnada's effect was it's own thing that can't get bonuses like Charge Mind but on the flipside counts the Tarnada as a valid casting tool for the Tarnada's spell so you don't need a Tome for the effect to be worthwhile.
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Re: Tarnada

Postby Akame » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:49 am

Slydria wrote:The way Tarnada is right now pigeonholes you into going Kensei/Evoker with an offhand tome, which just leads to the ridiculous combination of Charge Mind and attack until you trigger the free Vydel.

So I think it would be best if Tarnada's effect was it's own thing that can't get bonuses like Charge Mind but on the flipside counts the Tarnada as a valid casting tool for the Tarnada's spell so you don't need a Tome for the effect to be worthwhile.

I think this is fair.
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Re: Tarnada

Postby Neus » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:59 pm

I've changed it to where you don't get the Charge Mind or Greaper boost if you are casting it from Tarnada.

EDIT: Tarnada is also a casting tool specifically for Vydel so you don't need a tome anymore.

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Re: Tarnada

Postby Spoops » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:12 am

Oh cool, thats a pretty good change, thank you.

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Re: Tarnada

Postby Snake » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:48 am

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Re: Tarnada

Postby WaifuApple » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:50 pm

...and now charge mind doesn't work with Vydel at all, Tarnada or not Tarnada.
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Re: Tarnada

Postby Neus » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:10 pm

If there's a bug, please post a bug report after reading the sticky in the bug reports forum.

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Re: Tarnada

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