Quote:Committing felony-level crimes is considered heinous; violent crimes are considered incredibly heinous. If the offense is grave enough, your character could be facing a death sentence; however, this will be determined by a GM, not a player guard.

Quote:To make sure that people are aware: When a character has committed (violent) crimes enough to warrant it, a GM will make clear to them that they are likely to be permanently killed if they continue to commit (violent) crimes. This cannot be ignored; if your character crosses that line, they will be killed off. The GMs will be reasonable about this, but when it happens, it happens.

"MegaBlues" Wrote:Also, for what Sderg said, I've heard that people have attempted to kill others, have failed, and then refused to die themselves. And this was supported by GMs, due to the rule that you aren't allowed to force death upon others, unless you're part of the Empire. I.E. a GM.

"Ranylyn" Wrote:I would like to start by saying that I understand and respect where you're coming from. However, there's numerous issues with the whole thing.

1) Impersonation is considered an OOC offense since it can be used to fabricate logs and OOCly frame someone. It could potentially make for some good roleplay, sure, but the cons far outweigh the pros. For example, someone once impersonated Seraphina Isley and tried to make a scene out of a public assault/ attempted murder. Anyone who knew the character could attest that it's something the character was not stupid enough to do. However, not every character is as well known or easy to defend. If impersonation was just considered a minor IC offense, malicious players could simply imitate people they dislike to ruin them. This is actually one big reason why several people, myself included, don't advertise all our charatcers and keys in the way that some other people, like Roxy and Fern do; I actually advertised one of my new characters ONCE as an experiment and an hour later someone was using an inappropriate copy of the playby (basically a bikini instead of proper garments) in mockery of me, and they stopped when I called them out on it, before a GM was online to do anything about it.

2) Unfortunately, our community is hung up on selective metagaming. The equipment tab showing that they have armor instead of a tank top? "omfg get rid of it because it's metagame to be able to tell that." A character who ICly lost a racial feature? "OMFG YOU METAGAMING SHIT HOW DARE YOU TRY TO FOOL PEOPLE BY PRETENDING TO BE HUMAN!" As someone who's ICly lost a few racial features through IC assault PVP (a tail, a horn, both an elf's ears, etc) the backlash when people just so happen to see me in the arena on training day without a racial icon on my character because it's been ICly removed can be stupid, even when I expressly note the injury in the description and keep the original race emphasized. Until people get over this, I don't think people refusing IC consequences will ever change; no one wants to be ostracized.

3) I'd rather not go into details involving item theft, but TLDR version: An entire stack of raremetal is still just 1 encumberance. And, if multiple characters share a home (such as a family or whatnot) the item storage can't be locked to owner only, for obvious reasons. If even one careless person forgets to lock the door, some asshole can just waltz in and empty EVERYTHING out, with NO WAY of proving who did it. Honestly, entering others' houses without permission should be an OOC offense just because of how dumb it is to monitor and enforce.

4) Rather than make forced lich morphism an IC offense, let's just ban it from happening at all with liches, shall we? "Muahahaha, I will force my enemy to become a lich and acquire the power they need to destroy me, it is a foolproof plan!" Listen, no, I'm sorry. Anyone who claims they were forced to change needs to be brutally slapped with all kinds of non lethal weaponry, like floppy foam dildo bats, because that is the stupidest shit and people still think anyone with a second brain cell to rub against their first could ever consider it to be a remotely viable excuse for why their lich wants to be a social butterfly. Special little snowflake victim martyrs can get the fuck out. In fact, arrest them IRL for brain cell genocide. This counts as assault with a deadly weapon when the stupidity is THAT stupid.

There COULD be an argument to be made for vampires. COULD. While 6 existing vampires wouldn't get together to forcibly make food become non-food, it's not impossible for someone to acquire the blood of 6 vampires and trick someone into drinking it for less moral purposes, like a parent who never wants to see their child grow up, or other, even less moral, purposes. I think my favorite was a vampire hunter who unknowingly dated someone who was actually a vampire, and then got tricked into turning out of spite for their profession. See, this is neat. It's IC and encourages a character arc; how does one cope when becoming what they've dedicated their life to destroying? But, and this is a big but, these defensible examples are few and far between, and would be ICly impossible to prove anyways. *shrug*


So yeah. Just my two cents about the issues I see with your post. I know you said it's a rough draft and all, so I'm not knocking your efforts or motivations.

Quote:Special little snowflake victim martyrs can get the fuck out. In fact, arrest them IRL for brain cell genocide. This counts as assault with a deadly weapon when the stupidity is THAT stupid.

Quote:You surrender your right to your character's safety from general harm if you do any of the following:
- Commit assault.
- Commit theft.
- Blatantly antagonize a person to the point where they might be expected to respond aggressively (See: Repeatedly poking someone after they've told you to stop might get your arm broken).

The idea here is that a casual player should not expect to stray too heavily from "safe" behavior and keep their immunity from harm. Naturally, anyone who retaliates invites the same consequences. If you don't want to risk something bad befalling your character, don't try to be a badass. Call the guards.

Quote:You surrender the right to your character's life if you:
- commit murder.
- willingly engage a dangerous individual.
- investigate a dangerous individual (obviously they might want this to stop).
- knowingly involve yourself with a dangerous 'plot'.
- attack someone with the intent to kill.

Intent to kill must be expressed beforehand. If player A intends to kill player B and player B does not agree to a fight to the death (they forfeit their right to refuse if they've done any of the previous five things), then player B also cannot attempt force death on player A. Any of these rules can be made flexible with the prior consent of both parties, but without that consent you are where you are. If you've committed murder and the other person isn't giving prior agreement to your safety, you can't hide behind the "but it's my character" shield.