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Through the fire and the flames - Autumn - 08-21-2016
Skills with cinder tiles that do not currently that do not scale from Fire ATK atm:
Soldier:
Retreating Swipe
Roundtrip
Execute
Black Knight:
Bright Bishop
Crescent Rook
Demon Hunter:
Chaser
Crashing Bull
Bellowing Stag
Duelist:
Cyclone Spear
Sidecut
Sillcut
Kensei:
Toiken
Hirazuki
Kagekiri
Archer:
Aerial Razor
Unless these aren't bugs then ignore me.
Re: Through the fire and the flames - Snake - 08-21-2016
Martial Artist:
-Peddling Wheel
-Heaven Kick
Bonder:
-Infernal Summon
-Aliagmato
Don't forget.
(Also, yeah, stamp [Denied] and ignore it if it's intended.)
Re: Through the fire and the flames - Autumn - 08-21-2016
"Snake" Wrote:Martial Artist:
-Peddling Wheel
-Heaven Kick
Peddling Wheel and Heaven kick are scaling properly.
The others are true though.
Re: Through the fire and the flames - Neus - 08-21-2016
This isn't a bug.
Re: Through the fire and the flames - Autumn - 08-21-2016
I suppose they aren't, I presumed so since Shinken and the others were changed recently, though to be fair, 50% of these skills do 0 damage on cinder tiles.
Re: Through the fire and the flames - Snake - 08-21-2016
Since this is a balance fu thread now, yeah, I think this is fair to receive the same changes of Shinken and Crystal Rose. Why? Those little guys' Fire Physical Damage and Matador. It's pretty sad to still see 0-5 damage when the defenses are in % reduction.
But that's really something I'd vote for 50% Fire ATK instead of 100% Fire ATK for the skills that doesn't use a Sword, just to give those a fair use.
Re: Through the fire and the flames - Ranylyn - 08-22-2016
If the Cinder tiles doing 0 most of the time on those skills is intended, can we at least get it changed to an effect that isn't literally useless at best and detrimental at worst?
Re: Through the fire and the flames - Neus - 08-23-2016
My main concern is just not wanting to make cinders ultra powerful again. They were ridiculously strong for a long time. That said, I don't want them to be doing 0 damage to all targets, either.
Re: Through the fire and the flames - Autumn - 08-23-2016
I think cinders honestly are a little strong right now when used with 100% fire attack, if we normalized them all(including shinken and crystal rose) to 25% fire attack, then I think that would be a worthwhile reason to build fire attack, as well as make them fair to play against.
Re: Through the fire and the flames - Snake - 08-23-2016
Why not 75% for all, then? (That means cinders doing maximum of 45-55 fire physical damage. Quack. 25% would be 17 physical fire damage, enough to make Matador and anti-cinders enchant turn the damage into a flat 0. Spooks pls.)
Max Fire ATK you can get is 70 with all the talent extras, two weapons and a capped STR. (approximately.) And honestly Cinders are not that much of a big matter when we have a foot enchant that halves their damage, fire resist/absorb and spiked threads to prevent knockbacks into Cinders.