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Youkai install rebalance - Lolzytripd - 11-08-2016
installs kinda screw you if you don't take an extra point or two of aptitude, faith and san for these reasons
Youkai have 0 apt racially, this causes everyone running minimum aptitude to get -1 all stats from a youkai install, making it not that useful.
Youkai sometimes have lower racial faith than player races, this could cause a summoner that installed them to be unable to use their last youkai on their list
Youkai usually have poor san racials, this weakens a summoners racial abilities if they are relying on them.
my suggestion to fix
Install leaves these stats alone, OR install adds half of youkais racials to your racials.
Re: Youkai install rebalance - Ranylyn - 11-08-2016
Considering the stat bonus from Installing is now only +1. It's just not that good unless you really need the youkai's second skill or second passive (Or have a single bonded youkai.) There's generally more drawbacks to installing than benefits in PVP, since it also means increased succeptibility to several things. Mythslayer users have become more common since the GR due to their scaling, for example, and a lot of passives gained through install also confer a weakness in exchange for the benefit - such as how Asrai resists water but is weak to fire.
While the whole "add half racials instead of replacing racials" idea would take install back in the direction that made everyone feel it was overbearing, install is honestly pretty bad right now; needing to put extra points in Faith/Aptitude/etc basically negates the pitifully tiny stat boosts from affinity. This means you're just spending 3M and 10FP to get access to another skill for a few turns - and it's usually not even an especially useful one. Some exceptions exist, of course, such as Wawa and Byakko unless you have a Lion Shield (Heck, anyone who gets close to the enemy has very little reason to NOT install Wawa) but for the most part, they're not particularly useful.
I'd be in favor of following that thought proccess, at least, even if we need to change it from half youkai stats to 1/3 or whatnot, depending on how it ends up being in practice.
Re: Youkai install rebalance - Lolzytripd - 11-08-2016
stat buffing doesn't even mean as much as it used to thanks to good ol diminishing returns
Re: Youkai install rebalance - Esther - 11-08-2016
Suggested changes:
Install does not change your racial APT to the youkai's racial APT, but is otherwise unchanged (i.e., FTH and SAN still take a hit, and you're expected to account for these changes in your build).
New skill--
Auto-Install (5 ranks)
Where Mages can often prepare an elemental to inhabit them when hostilities emerge,
Summoners too have developed a similar tactic. At a chance equal to (20*Rank)%, when
starting a battle, the Summoner will be automatically installed with the first Youkai on their
contract list without spending Momentum or FP.
Rank 1: 20% chance
Rank 2: 40% chance
Rank 3: 60% chance
Rank 4: 80% chance
Rank 5: 100% chance