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My power is rising... overflowing...! - Fern - 12-21-2017 Alright so, it's probably better for this to get its own thread, rather than be mentioned every time. Damage stacking currently gets out of hand, simply because of its math being multiplicative. Usually it involves packing Fallcall, Hunted (Bloody Palms), Absolute Death, Charge Mind, Voltiger, Greaper... lightning talent that boosts your damage on shocking criticals, and pretty much almost every damage buffer ever. The reason it's an issue, is because multiplicative calculations appear to make its damage reach insane levels, regardless of one's damage reduction. To provide some examples: There's many other examples, and others are welcome to present their own. If you involve Hunted in your damage stacking, you usually can grab the Chimeric Prayer which boosts its LV by 5, usually when it's max loyalty. I did not use such prayer for these screenshots, unfortunately, but you can imagine what the damage would end up being. That said, a few solutions to this easily accessible problem have been mentioned, so far. A) Creating diminishing returns for damage increases. B) Nerfing Bloody Palms and Fallcall, since they're the most common in these set ups. C) Making the math become additive, instead of multiplicative. Personally, I'm leaning towards C, because I feel that it'd solve many issues in one go- the damage turns out to be much more bearable when the math is additive instead. Here's a quick example of Multiplicative versus Additive: "Shujin" Wrote:And just to add on this and my usual concern with how damage stacking currently works. So what do you think? Re: My power is rising... overflowing...! - Shujin - 12-21-2017 Well, as seen in the quote of mine, I also quite obviously lean towards C. That way we do not need to touch any of ther other skills really, and it´s also future proofing addtional Item effects/Classes etc. Re: My power is rising... overflowing...! - Snake - 12-21-2017 C is the correct way to go, to be honest. It also future-proofs any percentage-based items or buffs/debuffs that are to be added to never become abusive. PS: god damn it shujin stop copying me- Re: My power is rising... overflowing...! - Autumn - 12-21-2017 Option C where you make damage stacking additive is the most preferred option, even if it requires overhalling damage buffs in general I think its necessary. If there is absolutely not way of doing that, I'd go with my other option I suggested in another thread where you only make the highest multiplier in statuses apply. Re: My power is rising... overflowing...! - Lolzytripd - 12-22-2017 hopefully when this is reviewed the solution can touch on excel weapons, so that they don't fall in the sometimes awful-sometimes overgodkill never reliable range anymore. https://i.gyazo.com/b84778c5101ce6b834e48c809e379044.png Re: My power is rising... overflowing...! - Snake - 12-22-2017 Oof. Re: My power is rising... overflowing...! - K Peculier - 01-20-2018 Agreed with option C as well. Additive damage would also slow down battles which is a good thing for roleplay. We don't need to end fights of two Level 60 players in less than three rounds because of multipliers to percentage damage. |