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Youkai and Summoners - firehawk11 - 02-21-2023
When going through level 55+ Dungeons with my Youkai as a Grand Summoner I feel like my level 60 Fire Elemental & Kerberos both have a lacking amount of Skill at just 55-56 (This is including the +5 stats from the Summoner boost). Everyone knows you need around 60 scaled Skill. (At least that is what people been telling me) It feels like my Youkai, any Youkai I summon has a lack of being able to hit. Can this be altered somehow?
RE: Youkai and Summoners - Snake - 02-21-2023
That's been a problem with Youkai itself for a time, and has already been discussed. The verdict was them getting a rework at some time in the future, so wait warmly.
Or go Priest with Restrain Staff.
RE: Youkai and Summoners - Autumn - 02-21-2023
Surprisingly thats a very high amount of SKI for most youkai lol, I would say the numbers you're looking at is what their SKI should be (They shouldnt be as strong as players), and instead I'd rather see Summoner as a base class be able to grant it's youkai hit rate somehow, likely through a passive, or even tie it to their aspects.
RE: Youkai and Summoners - renowner - 02-22-2023
It is actually a pretty high amount of skill.
My only recommendations would be. . . Heron with the hit boosting global song.
Taking advantage of flanking when you can. . .
Being a bonder, since Synchro summon's +6 to all gives you +12 hit. Remember that non player characters don't have diminishing returns!
If you're a spellthief you can also give invisible weapon to your little minions.
Keep in mind all youkai weapons have 85-90 hit!
And all scale with 100% Str. . .
The poor fairies have like. . .26 skill?
Summoners are still real strong. But I wish the summons were stronger, and the passives were weaker personally.
Not ideal, but we're waiting for the rework at some point! And you still have Suzaku and Sazae-Oni for unevadables. (High guile youkai can also be good with flanking)
RE: Youkai and Summoners - firehawk11 - 03-03-2023
Isn't this just proving why Shapeshifter is good while actually Youkais are bad?
RE: Youkai and Summoners - renowner - 03-03-2023
As someone who mains gs and bonder and not shapeshifter, nah. They're all still good.
You just gotta know which youkai are *complete* dogshit, and which ones are only *mostly* dogshit.
And then there's a few that are just genuinely fine/good.
Ascended Suzaku is your best friend as a summoner.
RE: Youkai and Summoners - firehawk11 - 03-08-2023
If any Youkai are that bad then they need buffs. With the fact Sesaku has an evade ignoring attack is good but it is something either more then 2 Youkai require at this rate or the entire system needs to be redone.
RE: Youkai and Summoners - renowner - 03-10-2023
Yes and its going to be redone, eventually, or at least Dev has said he plans to rework summoners. We won't really be getting changes until then.