[JamOfBoy]

Did you really point out earth weakness on a papilion as a 'bad build' flag? Isn't that stacking the deck in the favor of your own argument by demanding the impossible? Like demanding high san on a papilion? I don't get it.

As you can see in the image, that's a build without any classes, class stat bonuses, gear bonuses, buff bonuses.

In practice, you'd actually hit 330~% hit, 230+ evasion, 150%+ crit, and between 40 and 60% damage reduction with that just going bog-standard ghost/bk, as well as 1khp+. But you stipulated without hp from classes, and that's a build without classes at more than 800hp on papilion that would work just fine as a standard duelist base.

Yes, certain stat builds have more HP. It's irrelevant to whether Giant Gene is too much/too strong/too prevalent, which I agree with, but the messaging gets lost when you drag race into it instead of mandatory stat distributions vs. TTK; The races intended to give more HP having more HP has no bearing on giant gene.

I pointed out too high SAN. No Pap wants FP cost on their invite insanity.

I pointed out earth weakness. You have no restrictions on items or classes.

I said make a good build using items and classes, you chose to do neither of these things and now you're complaining when I point out your build is bad. You took the challenge and failed, sorry. You aren't hitting above 270 hit with class stats and item stats alone. Don't say I'm stacking the deck thanks.

The argument here is about Giant Gene being the lord of torso enchants and near-mandatory, particularly on races with low base HP (and even then it often isn't enough). Keep to the topic please and thank you.