Experimental Balance Fu Ideas

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Experimental Balance Fu Ideas

Post by Sawrock » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:07 pm

I thought it'd be fun to have a thread where we can converse not about balancing that needs to be done, but rather suggestions for the sake of discussion only; things that either don't matter or are just mindfood. Ask questions to your fellow users about balance, whether the questions be ridiculous or plain, large or small. Comment on what others think about, as well.

To start off, I'd like to suggest: How do you think balance would be affected if users were allowed ANY four classes (promo or base) for their skill selection? For example, someone could be Ghost/Duelist/Monk/Evoker, and another could be Grand Summoner/Void Assassin/Hexer/Soldier.
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Re: Experimental Balance Fu Ideas

Post by PantherPrincess » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:07 pm

I've toyed with the idea of triple or quad class combos in my mind for a while and as fun as it sounds I think it'd get out of hand extremely fast. I think we're fine at a limit of two. However, what would be interesting is adding a system to the Legend Book that allows you to rank up certain class skills even higher, not to be confused with white spirits. I.E. using legend ink would unlock further ranks in certain skills, let's say I choose Sear, for each ink I spend I gain a rank in that spell up to a max of 10 ranks. I'd think something like this would tie into Destiny characters only.
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Re: Experimental Balance Fu Ideas

Post by WaifuApple » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:54 pm

I think the idea of extra ranks would pretty quickly become a balance concern. 10 ranks is a lot more than you'd realise and would likely bring damage shooting up for destinies. Battles already end quick with damage numbers compared to HP (without a healer).

As for the four class system. Gods of this realm have mercy on us all for whatever chaos that would bring.
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Re: Experimental Balance Fu Ideas

Post by Sawrock » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:47 am

Note we'd still be limited to four classes- as of right now, it's our base classes with the promo classes we chose. So if someone chose Ghost but not Duelist, they wouldn't get access to Fleur...

Another idea: how would it affect the balance if every negative status effect gave the user a chance of injury?
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Re: Experimental Balance Fu Ideas

Post by Senna » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:17 am

Having more than two classes to pick from is a bit extreme without a type of draw back. Spell theif is a good example of that and you can see how wild that can get. Everyone and their mama would be running Death Knight with a auto fear, speeding up fights tenfold. So for that idea, it's a no go from me. The other with the lnk, that's a bit iffy for me because that too can get out hand. Ki awoken, med, healing, posion and other stuff will get too far out of hand. So that's also a no go from me.
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Re: Experimental Balance Fu Ideas

Post by FaeLenx » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:57 am

What if evade worked on a bell curve instead of a flat number so you could never have a 100% chance to hit or a 0% chance to hit, but most people were in the 25% to 75% range.

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Re: Experimental Balance Fu Ideas

Post by WaifuApple » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:44 am

I'd be fine with a cap on the lowest hit you could reach, experimentally. Maybe 5% or something. Maybe a 95% hit rate cap, but I dunno. I feel you should be capable of getting 100% hit chance if you build for it.
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Re: Experimental Balance Fu Ideas

Post by Raigen.Convict » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:58 am

So that destiny idea of added ranks to skills, I'd rather see that as a destiny AND mono-class only thing.
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So level 8 on 5 ranks and level 6 on three ranks, single pointers are unaffected cause most don't have a way to go higher.
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Re: Experimental Balance Fu Ideas

Post by Sawrock » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:20 am

Now I'm imagining Kip Up turning you into Voldo with a gain of momentum on knock-down.
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