(07-13-2024, 04:34 PM)Trexmaster Wrote: On grinding:

Thread 1: here  (since this thread we at least got extra mob spawns in the 1-60 dungeons and dark amplifier but that introduced problems of its own that I addressed in thread 2)
Thread 2: here

Shard
Thread 1: here (request for a crystal terminal upgrade to allow players to view their shard count per zone to make collecting them far easier, as they'll know which areas to look in)
Thread 2: here (request to allow players to toggle visibility of already gathered shards so party leaders can help party members who haven't gathered all shards)

(07-13-2024, 06:37 AM)polly Wrote: I'd also like to point out that while purchasing Legend Inks and Shards hold no direct benefit, we still have an item that gives a direct[/ii] advantage over non paying players.

The Science Kit.

The dismantling the Science Kit provides is a direct advantage over free to play players, since normally you can only go to a very specific part of the map, only at specific hours to do so. Otherwise? You need the Science Kit.

If that's fine, I fail to see how purchasing Legend Inks and the Shards are such a massive, overwhelming advantage.
We could also simply just put "limitations" on both of them.

You can only use the Gain All Shards item if you have a character with all shards collected on the same key.
You can only purchase Legend Inks if you have already obtained every stat increasing Legend Extension upgrade.

Now you're not getting any stats by purchasing. Any better?

(07-13-2024, 10:12 PM)Skullcatrons Wrote: I also don't like this because it only encourages bad faith. We're deceiving ourselves into thinking that this is okay. Which you realize it's not really correct, because Professor Gremlin is available pretty much 24/7. You just have to go to him. Talk to him. Wiggle your brows at him, and call him cute names. This was the same case back on Great Six. Where you have to go to Law's End.

dev homie you've been on the internet for like over 2 decades now, and on byond specifically for atleast 22 years and 6 games plus a map editor in your backlog. if you think something as tame as that is rude if even a touch then idk what kinda criticism you choose to look at or acknowledge

(07-13-2024, 09:17 PM)Neus Wrote: Opinions are split, which is fine, it's more or less what I expected. It's not the type of thing I look for when I'm considering adding new support options, anyway. There are areas of crystal collection that could be improved outside of the support shop, which I am planning to look into.

Though, if I'm being honest, I don't appreciate shard gathering being framed as a 'purposeful inconvenience'. And I'm going to assume it wasn't your intention, Jam, but your post also comes off a touch rude.

Thank you for your opinions.

(07-14-2024, 12:33 AM)Trexmaster Wrote: What I meant was more adding this as a support shop feature as opposed to quality of life changes could be perceived as such, not the shard gathering itself. Thus my advocating for such changes over the initial proposal of a donation option.

I am glad shard gathering is being looked into though. Thank you.