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Invocations (The Summoner Variety)
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Youkai invokes are wildly versatile, though at the cost of actually having to have said youkai (you have a cap), and also leveling up said youkai (A grind).

To this end, by the end of the grind for them, their invocations are... 300% ele attack. Which, in a world where we've finally gutted Impure Element, the only real 'problem' child nowadays is Luminary Element, so their damage is GENERALLY the same as any ordinary spell (80 ele attack x 3 is 240) which is a bit over what an average spell could do (Air pressure, for instance, is 100/100 swa+ele scaling. Generally speaking, this spell SHOULD be hitting for 200+, but it's an adjustable AoE).

On the flip side, most invocations do a good amount of single target damage with a rider effect (Ruby beam is blind). The problem that I have today is the FP scaling.

It's, genuinely, from a bygone era. Most Youkai don't even have the FP to use their moves for prolonged periods because of this FP increase and them not getting good WIL.

Also Ichor Veil raises the FP cost on players using it, despite the player version of it NOT being able to use the increased scaling/damage.
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Sorry just 1 small correction to make here

I mostly agree with the majority you say here.

Youkai Evoke isn't 300% Ele, it is actually 250%

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(Yesterday, 04:15 PM)TorientalVortX Wrote: Sorry just 1 small correction to make here

I mostly agree with the majority you say here.

Youkai Evoke isn't 300% Ele, it is actually 250%

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THAT JUST MAKES IT WORSE.

WHY DOES THIS THING DO LESS DAMAGE THAN WIND SLASHER OR AIR PRESSURE IN MOST CASES. AND COSTS LIKE 2x!
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Why? Why does it deal less damage because most invocations currently need a fix because it feels more powerful to just sit there spamming spells like a normal mage. As for Youkai you don't need to grind them if you are on Korvara as you can just use Cypelle to make them go from level 1 - 60. As for 250% damage, should honestly be buffed to 300% (Even then it should probably be like 330%-350% Elemental Attack, since spells tend to be around 110%) that way it is doing 3x damage instead of 2.5x. Which if you know your math, 2.5x Elemental Attack is well not as good as using 100%/110% Elemental Attack Spell 3 times (Which with the rate of FP regeneration why bother).

However since this is based off of Summoner and Youkai? The whole system needs an update and the classes need a huge change. It is a problem in some regards rather it is at the same time underpowered as while as overpowered all at the same time based sheerly off of Grand Summoner and Summon Storm.

When I see Summoner I just see Youkai spamming Basic Attack with the maybe chance of using their skills once in a while or only 1 use per turn to save FP so you can prolong the fight. Suzaku is an example of not wanting to spam Lord's Flame to save FP because you get more out of Suzaku's FP if you don't but then againn Suzaku is an exception and not the norm for Youkai.
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