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10-16-2025, 02:43 AM
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I think frankly if the only reason you play summoner is to do this, you may just not wanna play summoner. Youkai are weak but not THAT weak.
Summon decay should absolutely be a thing though, summoner isnt the only problem
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Youkai are weak individually except ascended youkai specifically suzaku. As a result any summoner balance has to consider that. Summoner isn't actually a weak class overall, and I disagree with the 2 turn idea, as well as the damage buff idea.
Just make them despawn after 1 turn, but buff all the old, weak youkai
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10-17-2025, 10:25 AM
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me when the summoner intentionally summons 10 youkai right before dying so they round robin me the turn after
This is even worse with a charged Railgan, since it'll go first the turn right after the Engi's death, so enjoy the 300 free damage
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10-18-2025, 07:31 AM
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Just shows that Minion classes no matter the game is busted. Youkai are weak as Paruku said but there is no way to balance them without heavy consideration. Whatever you take you must also add to keep it fair to the summoner...If you ask me. However what would be the point of summoning Youkai if within 2 turns they just disappear, then there would be no reason to target Youkai if the summoner is the weakest link. (Summon Storm = Cut off the head) then you just beat the summoner because most likely you can simply kite the Youkai.
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10-18-2025, 07:02 PM
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I mean there's lots of reasons to summon youkai currently that are utilized, some more obvious than others (the cursed Suzaku being the prime example)... Like I said yes youkai are weak but they are not purely existing in a "I'm about to die, time to stall" type thing.
You're asking for youkai buffs for something that doesn't really affect most summoners tbqh, as most don't do this intentionally if they do this at all. Do they need buffs? Yes, they have for awhile. Would this be why? No, and its not really the place to push for specifically buffs to them.
And again, youkai are also not the only cause for this other classes can and do, in fact, do this. (even better in some scenarios)