[Rendar]

Currently, the Stance Basic attacks in Verglas are not classified as.. Well.

Any type of 'Stance' skill.

I am unsure of the full ramifications of making this change, but could we make them all count as skills from their respective Stance? Hare Kick counting as a combination skill for Hare, so you can shift from Hare Kick (3m) > Icicle Spear (2m) > Expanding Ice (2m) ?  This would be a Hare > Fox > Fox interaction.

The only issues I can see playing out is in cases with things like... Fleur. Wherein the extra 1m of a crit would make it Hare Kick (3m, regain 2m) > Icicle Spear (2m) > Expanding Ice (2m) > Cold Front (2m)

Which. Might be a problem, but it also requires you to be using a fist weapon in your mainhand and not MMA.. So. It's potentttttttially fine.. Except Ghost Exists and doesn't care about weapon.

[Autumn]

Currently, the Stance Basic attacks in Verglas are not classified as.. Well.

Any type of 'Stance' skill.

I am unsure of the full ramifications of making this change, but could we make them all count as skills from their respective Stance? Hare Kick counting as a combination skill for Hare, so you can shift from Hare Kick (3m) > Icicle Spear (2m) > Expanding Ice (2m) ?  This would be a Hare > Fox > Fox interaction.

The only issues I can see playing out is in cases with things like... Fleur. Wherein the extra 1m of a crit would make it Hare Kick (3m, regain 2m) > Icicle Spear (2m) > Expanding Ice (2m) > Cold Front (2m)

Which. Might be a problem, but it also requires you to be using a fist weapon in your mainhand and not MMA.. So. It's potentttttttially fine.. Except Ghost Exists and doesn't care about weapon.

I am not fully denying the potentiality but I will point out the largest abuse case given this would become a thing:

With Kusarigami or any fist that has significant range to it such as buzzing chakram, Fox Dive copies that range and gives you effectively hanging (but you'll always land at someone's side), this would make it so you could do something such as:

Fox Dive a target in 5-6 range -> Hare/Bear Skill -> Hare/Bear skill -> Hare/Bear Skill.

For example since Fox Dive places you airborne this would allow for some heavy momentum economy abuse such as Fox Dive -> Axe Kick -> Rapid Kick -> Cold Front.

I believe this change would rock Verglas from being just Strong to being flat out overpowered atm.