[Ryu-Kazuki]

Daisuke » Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:24 am[/url]"]But yeah, is this topic about guns in general or single-shot guns because Akimbo gives multihit guns insane damage potential, I highly doubt that needs a buff.

It's supposed to be guns in general. Not everyone is going to resort to Akimbo, especially if there's more reason to make it not the meta when it comes to gun users. Sure it's a nice way to boost the output from multihit guns, but if people want to single wield and use another weapon, or glove item, then that substantial damage output isn't going to be all that great since you're not getting those extra few shots from your other gun. That's my only problem with it. Maybe if guns all got boosted, using Akimbo could have a form of drawback to balance it out in the end result. This also kind of raises the point that to be decent with guns in general, you're forced to take certain builds in order to do so.

But the main problem is how Handguns are favored over all other guns, so perhaps that should be the thing to tackle, first.

[Soapy]

Ryu-Kazuki » Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:43 pm[/url]"]This also kind of raises the point that to be decent with guns in general, you're forced to take certain builds in order to do so.

Same thing can be applied to almost any class.

Shotguns aren't bad, and snipers aren't bad with the proper items. It's just that handguns are that good.

[Ryu-Kazuki]

Soapy » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:18 pm[/url]"]Shotguns aren't bad, and snipers aren't bad with the proper items. It's just that handguns are that good.

Then one of two things can fix that.

Buff the other guns in some way, or nerf handguns (which is a stupid suggestion and only makes guns in general absolute shit). Sure a meta is always going to be formed in one way or another, but it shouldn't be in a nutshell, "do this kind of thing with the character that destroys a creative ideal or be a worthless weakling in combat because of your combat weapon type choices".

[Lolzytripd]

I like rendars suggestion , but I'd like to add a bit , snipers being unable to fire a 1 range except for parting shot , with scaling damage the farther the target is away

[Argonus]

Rendar » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:12 am[/url]"]Shotgun gets a cone AoE or cone past their target < or hit everything inbetween them and target >. If they are within 2 squares of you, you deal 25-50% more damage.

Rifle pierces through targets if they're in line < Snipe rifle only > and if in a line with target, damage is increase by 10%

I like this idea, but how would it work with charge/ overcharge shot? Would it apply to each enemy it hits or just the first?

Also I have one more suggestion... Nerf handgun damage a bit, but in exchange allow Akimbo to trigger spark drive once for each gun, giving it a chance to pop twice.

[Lolzytripd]

Most overcharged shells are aoe so no to them , other wise bonus charge is fine except for chainshell

[Ryu-Kazuki]

I'm really keen on snipers getting extra damage for each square away they are. It's capped at an 8 max without a tactician anyway.