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Rebound and Vampires
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"Snake" Wrote:The problem with Vampires is related to their actual lack of ability to benefit with heals. The buff/nerf should be aimed at Stillness, Darkness; and indirectly will benefit those minor skills. I'd love the idea of 'Only Mercalan magic has reduced effects/no effect' on Vampires, for a kickstarter. 'All heals' is pretty exaggerated.

Second and back on topic, uh... Rebound is not that good or dependable, mostly due to 'Unmarked' for 2 rounds at every target you hit. Personally, I never saw it going beyond 50-55 HP per enemy.

So don't even compare that to Graft's absurdity of 150-200 per round for only holding SWA alone on a tome, versus something that only heals 200 HP if you're both lucky to have Claret Call on everyone in a PvP situation, have invested in RES till it goes 50 Scaled, and with a cooldown that leaves 90% of your class's arsenal unusable.

That was like comparing an elephant to an ant. Oof. And here I was thinking Aid from Monk needed a buff to be worth waiting 3 rounds.
....I'm sorry, did you forget that PR-Hi Potions, Gentle Garden, Cherry Blossom, First Aid, Meditate, Spirit Jar and Aid exist? On top of the mountain of benefits that Vampires already get, and a now-limited Holy enchant? An all-encompassing heal penalty is necessary to keep Vampires in check, and limiting it to just Mercalan heals will negate that weakness.

Let me clarify: Given enough marked enemies, Rebound can heal the Vampire enough to match a single cast of Graft, if not exceed it. It also does not require WIL/FAI (and any other stat that the casting tool requires for scaling; not everyone jumps over to Chorus), instead relying on RES, which directly impacts magic damage, and doesn't demand as much of a build-around as WIL/FAI does. But ultimately, it does not matter if it can't be used once every turn like Graft does, because it's not a competition between Rebound and Graft. It's how much of an impact Rebound can and will make and if it's too much for Vampires to utilize.

If Rebound vastly outheals Vampiric, and can reach numbers that Graft would spit out (which is ridiculously easy to achieve in PvE), then Vampires have no business getting Rebound's full heal. Simple as that.
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[12:53:15 AM] Chaos: don't hit dyst
[12:53:18 AM] Chaos: that's cruelty to animals
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