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When to Evoker if I am just a Mage?
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Spoops post_id=36578 time=1558130037 user_id=193 Wrote:Evoker has some issues right now, that much is undeniable, its not in an awful spot but its not in a great spot either since invocations are hard to simply pull off if they're not just global range.

A good example of Evoker's current issues (intended or not intended) would be listed in Kameron's thread he wrote up on it. (http://www.neus-projects.net/viewtopic.p...amp;t=6857)

You don't need to play the devil's advocate in every single thread, some things are genuinely fine or a bad idea. Evoker doesn't need buffed, it's in a very strong position right now with clear strengths and weaknesses to play around. I've seen plenty of people make evoker work in both PVE and PVP and done it myself just fine, even with meme builds that only have 400 or even 200 max hp I've managed to surprise people or clear BDPs.

Completely retooling entire passives that already work is dumb (In regards to that linked thread) but so is adding more damage to already overstacked damage. See post above. Silence /is/ the counter. Its supposed to hinder you. It disables your big dick spells but doesn't prevent you using CM or HSDW or Basic Spells instead. With CEL you can guarantee an invoke on anyone with skip, with thunderhooves or as a dullahan you can too. An evoker playing well in PVP is a nightmare. Especially a wind or earth mage due to the sheer range of their spells. Thankfully the new ghost meta has caused a dip in the earth mage meta.

IMO Evoker plays as it should play. It forces the enemy team to go 'oh shit I need to stop that/prevent that' and makes the evokes really feel like a big deal. Practice more and you'll probably feel the same way.
Inb4: I've played 900000000 hours of evoker ill have you know
90000 hours doesn't mean shit if it's not current and active. Stuff like Relent Gale giving you disengagement options for 1m is very useful. Or Static Charge giving you a Excel Charge for 1m. You know what costs 1m? Making your spells ignore evasion completely with a excel tome.

For reference before linking threads suggesting a flat 40% damage buff and +300 hit to evokers in the future consider:
Resist! Purple-Haired OOC takes 925 Lightning magical damage. (Overload / Frayed Magic) vs my doomwall with 43% lightning res and (edit: over) 50% magres
Inb4: But it was about NON evoke spells!
See above.
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