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General Opinion on the Guard System
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(11-03-2020, 03:34 PM)Perdition Wrote: Why would a player need to be debuffed while they're already capped and about to be soft banned? That makes no sense to me.

The biggest problem I have with the guard system is guards being able to roll up to people out in the wilderness which has been brought up already. When I think of guards from other games, they literally stay in the vicinity of their own kingdom/city/whatever and guard it. Why would they be guarding the open plains and forests or whatever outside of their city? That makes 0 sense but it happens all the time.

The other thing is guards being called for absolutely frivolous shit and handing out jail time for it. I know fines have been suggested, but they need to be pushed for hard, because I've seen people jailed for harmless bullshit. It's akin to a police officer being called for someone J walking and them being thrown in the slammer. To add to this point, not only does this happen but -multiple- guards show up for said more or less harmless crimes. Like, why? Would a squadron of police cars show up for someone being drunk and disorderly? I also feel like there's a lot of pressure for the guards to punish -someone- when they show up.

For example, I had a character that was attacked in the middle of Dormeho and guards showed up and arrested my character for being attacked. They literally were not fighting back, had a max size setting sun dropped on them, and were just trying to de-escalate the situation as they knew the other person that was going apeshit in question and they got arrested after being put to half HP and never once having fought back. Oh and, that person that assaulted me? They weren't apprehended LUL. I'm not blaming the guards in question because the system facilitates this, but it leads to some absolutely backwards as fuck shit. Guards don't show up and take statements, they just dole out arrests, especially if the court of public opinion has determined a bad guy before the guards arrive at the scene.

First point. People tend to actively ignore the guard, or undermine arrests/Consequence. While the arrest system can be a soft ban and harsh, personally I feel like many crimes are worthy of those soft bans. Permanently crippling characters/Murder/ etc are permanent consequences in exchange for a week or two in Arjav.

Second Point. Your arrest in Dormeho was not down to popular opinion but your conduct. You ignored the Guards posts several times, refused to acknowledge them until you were forced to, did not explain yourself ICly, and then when confronted in LOOC you proceeded to refer to members of the crowd as 'Autists' and 'Retards'. Only to then try to commit suicide in the lobby of arjav to avoid four hours in prison.

Third point. The Shaitan who assaulted you was given a firm warning after they a senseless, smooth brained newborn. Took the time to acknowledge the guard, explain the situation in detail, and understood that they had disturbed the peace. They were promptly however, arrested a week later for violent conduct and given a harsher sentence than your character for failing to heed or learn from the previous warning.

The reasons you were arrested ICly were not frivolous, and would not have transpired if your character had not made things so difficult for himself.
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General Opinion on the Guard System - by Aqua - 11-02-2020, 12:09 PM
RE: General Opinion on the Guard System - by Balor - 11-04-2020, 02:43 AM
RE: General Opinion on the Guard System - by Aqua - 11-05-2020, 01:57 PM

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