[Chaos]

Rockabye » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:04 pm[/url]"]

Chaos » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:39 pm[/url]"]This is something that should be going on Black Knight's skill list, not the Talent roster. +5 DEF for ANYONE who wears Heavy Armor is far too good, not even accounting for the other bonuses.

Black Knights already have their +DEF skill, and just because they exist is no reason to bar other classes from a decent heavy armor bonus (especially when BKs will still be able to use it too). BKs will always use it better than classes that aren't meant to be tanky, as those classes tend to be punished for using heavy armor at all. As for +5 DEF being too good... merely becoming able to upgrade armor has already provided a larger bonus (also available to everyone) than what is being suggested here.

Except that when a talent goes, "Get Iron Wall and then some when you wear Heavy Armor," You're practically putting a Class Skill in the Talents pool. In fact, anyone could ditch Iron Wall and use this Talent as a replacement; losing +1 DEF isn't a big deal when you're freeing up 5 SP and getting a few bonuses to boot. There is no other Talent that provides this much of a bonus; the most you'll ever get to a statistic from a single Talent is +2. If this Talent was something like, "While wearing Heavy Armor, +1% Pierce/Slash/Blunt Resistance per Rank, +(2% STR) BW increase at Rank 3, then +2 DEF at Rank 5," then that would be perfectly fine. But not when it boosts a stat just like a Class Skill does.

Also, you forget that while a torso's defensive values only work towards reducing incoming damage, DEF can also be used in any skill that calls for the stat, such as Terra Strike, Checkmate and Stalemate. +5 DEF from spending Talent points (when Talents don't cause a whole lot of indecision beyond growth bonuses) is going to be better than +9 from spending a good amount of Mura, depending on how rare the item is.

P.S. Until the day that Dev puts a restriction on how many Promoted Classes can be unlocked at the same time, there is nothing stopping someone from simply throwing Black Knight on when they want to feel like a tank with their Heavy Armor.