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People have offered their thoughts on why they think just sticking with the current system is a problem, beyond just numbers and mechanics, and down to how intrinsically unfun it is. Nothing about this is just from people running cheesy builds wanting to go back to a crazy dominance. People who had a theme and stuck with it now find themselves unable to execute it even with sacrifices in the new system, because this and that in terms of stats have become absolutely mandatory, with no room for improvement.

Guess for them it's time to completely change what their character is all about, a shamed upon practice because people don't like seeing others change entirely to fit the meta, sacrificing what they WERE in the process. But that'll happen, because the changes shut down more than just cheese. This just gave rise to new kinds of cheese, if anything.

Again, all I see is dismissiveness about a point of view you don't agree with, and upset that it's seemingly not okay to do that, more balance fu posts doesn't put you on a podium - we disagree on how to go forward. It's not wild at all to want to step back now. After all, not all of us see the system as it is, even with fixes, as something that would be more positive than adjusting what we had.

I am not really interested in anyone trying to stall out and say "we'll consider it later". It's not going to BE an option later. We keep all options on the table, and anyone trying to gatekeep what can and can't be an option should reconsider.