08-30-2022, 02:35 AM
(08-30-2022, 02:18 AM)FaeLenx Wrote: I feel like a lot of people arguing against shine knights being OP are kinda missing the point of why it's really situationally strong.
Shine knight would not be substantially weaker for losing its full immunities for the every day builds that mean to use it.
It would only be weaker to the people who slot the weapon as a theoretical solution to hexer/priests or other light/dark based builds. Both light and dark damage are already inundated with counters and solutions that block them out entirely as viable damage sources against the more meta-breaking item stackers. Removing this one easy to use tool is not a bad idea.
Nobody is suggesting making shine knight weaker at what YOU GUYS are talking about using it for. They're talking about making it no longer an easy nullification against specific builds. Similar to this, we should consider other easy itemizations that nullify entire builds like red letter and circle ring, though at least those come with a weakness to their use beyond just the lost opportunity of wearing other items.
The difference between Shine Knighting and Red Letter
One's a status, another an equipment.
That's really the big difference we're saying here. Red Letter, Circle Ring had to has a weakness because they're not status-effect. You cannot cleanse them, you cannot get rid of them because they're an equipment. Shine Knighting on other hand, you can prevent that. You can knockdown them, silence them. Once they get silenced, they cannot use Shine Knighting because it is an invocation. Much like Death Knighting. And finally, in addition.. Refer to posts above.