[Pyro]

Does Beggar's hole have NPC guards, or an NPC or player driven watch of any kind? I'm assuming not given the OP's talk on NPCs and their usage. This kind of excuses the no notice if so, though an activity post/ping of some kind should probably still be made for such an event and I couldn't find one anywhere.

If they wanted to go down the NPC-route? Then sure, Beggar's Hole is aligned with the Smugglers who live RIGHT NEXT TO THEM and have existed for who knows how long before player intervention. Which I'd assume would be not very happy that Geladyne sends in troops to march on their neighbors. Even then, the first time they marched there was indeed a player watch but they were walked pass by with no RP whatsoever.

Disregarding that, there SHOULD be a notice on a OOC-level at least. Communication is king. What are you going to expect to find when you march in unannounced/without communication to your IC opposition and nobody is around in a RP game? Just go back? "Hey boss, they weren't home so we left a letter." If it was Meiaquar that marched troops into Geladyne with no announcement or OOC communication as an example, it probably wouldn't feel too great for either side.

Hello,

I don't really think I have much capability of commenting on much in this thread, as I've been trying to keep things smooth from an OOC perspective because we're all just here for RP and rules aren't my forte. I think using pet kits to spy is scummy. And there should probably be more OOC communication, but the latter point I'm not really sure how to address because it's easy for things to get out of hand really quickly when people can be called up. (Which is why we made sure everyone agreed to a scene lock the second time around.)

However, one thing I do feel comfortable addressing is this point in particular, as it paints the Geladyne players involved as ignoring RP. Given I was playing the character in charge of leading both times, I'm fairly certain that we weren't given any form of indicator that someone intended to RP with/at us on our way to the Beggar's Hole. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry, because we certainly would have stopped to RP if someone was there and made their intentions known. But to my knowledge, they did not.