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I have no doubt that they're well rounded characters. People on SL love these jokes. That's what I said. You all chose to derive some negative connotation from that where I was somehow saying that this was a negative thing in some way. Beggar's Hole exists because the concept is funny. People who I had assumed had a sense of humor and wanted to share that made it happen, and it was an alluring, funny prospect that brought in a lot of extra people. I don't think I'm reframing anything I said in any way when I say that I would hope that everyone was in on the joke. The issue with that is that evidently everyone wasn't in on the joke.

The person who coined it, made it, and founded it said that it was not a well intentioned joke at all, rather it was a scathing commentary on the way he thought this community was flawed. Because he felt that requiring consent was a problem. I'm glad you're all changing the name with that in mind, especially when you're asking others to provide consent and be well intentioned with the way they interact with you.

To me, it seems like you've got an idea of the place stuck in your head and are running with it and are trying to speak on how other people feel about the place and its people and not just yourself. Do you actually go and spend any time there, see what the place is like or the people? Maybe when it started out with the original leader then never left Geladyne again, perhaps? I had never met the original consent bandits, but the people that are there now are not jokes in any way and its outright disrespectful to refer to them as such. Beggar's Hole doesn't exist because the concept is funny. It's completely different from what it used to be. You are being flat out told this, multiple times- but you don't seem to care for anything the players from the place are saying. They didn't 'name change' for the reason you stated in mind. But how would you know? You're not going to ask and even telling you now, you'd likely not care for what others are telling you. It seems to me you'd rather not act towards these people in a good light or with good intentions, especially with how derogatory these posts in the thread from you have been. The person with the most vitriol in this thread has honestly been from you.

Be better. Take what that all started and make something fun and good natured from it. Have fun. Stop pretending that all of this wasn't said though.

Such as this as well, being condescendingly told to 'be better'. They've changed so much from what the original concept even was, it's totally something new and different. No one is even pretending it wasn't said, but it's quite evident you're stuck on it and how BH used to be to the point where multiple people telling you differently can't even get through to you or change your mind it seems on basically anything you've said through this entire thread.

I know it's going to be taken as a mean post, but to explain my intentions, sometimes people need the good, hard truth. I want to help change your mind, have you go and have fun with these people when it seems to me you're not even giving them a chance and you're constantly belittling them and trying to put them down. Please try to have an open mind and not have your ego get in the way of things. One of my very good friends is much like this. Sticks to his guns, doesn't budge a single foot on any topic, doubling down on it and burns friendships down over trivial things, never wanting to change his mind and he ends up regretting it. To you it's still 'haha funny joke bandits', but to others it's a loving family and community with good roleplay they can share a laugh and drink with and have an amazing time playing together. I just wish I could make you see it the way I do.