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Uncertain Defeat
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(10-31-2023, 01:48 AM)MothEnthusiast Wrote: DH's Retaliate would also be a good candidate for certain defeat, given its nature. Boxer's uppercut finisher is another good one.

A point about Kensei, though, is that it's not nearly as 1v1 as people make it out to be. Most attacks, including spells, can trigger Hidden Cut's proc. You can cast an LB spell with a katana and then hidden cut everything hit. Certain defeat on it is probably a no from me, personally.

Probably. Though it'd probably fit the aesthetic of Kensei as a whole to have a 'don't-come-back' attack, though applying it in an AOE could be too much. Maybe some other single target skill ? If not that, I feel kinda stumped.

As of Retaliate, I thought about it for a while though didn't really want to bloat the Soldier Tree much. Though on second-thought it still could be a pretty valid one, given it's nature. Though I'd find Grandupper applying certain Defeat kind of...weird, given what it already -can- do. Maybe Fels ? "Knock them out of the ring" kinda fashion.


(10-31-2023, 03:08 AM)Autumn Wrote: Just be careful sprinkling them around too many classes, a few more is fine, but too many and you start to disrupt and invalidate strategies that should never leave the game, invalidating healing too much further emphasizes the tired old and unfun strategy of hyper focusing down one person within the first 2 rounds.

You still would have a lot more extra effective HP to back you up with the help of said healing, though yes, maybe it'd leave builds on the frailer side in...a weird spot. Though thankfully the recommendations mostly being finisher/resource-heavy Skills somewhat makes up for it, in my opinion, since that means you can't go at it straight away in most cases.

Not to mention you still can wash away , requinite, etc, the status, if I recall correctly. (?)
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Uncertain Defeat - by Ray2064 - 10-30-2023, 07:48 PM
RE: Uncertain Defeat - by MothEnthusiast - 10-31-2023, 01:48 AM
RE: Uncertain Defeat - by Rendar - 10-31-2023, 02:08 AM
RE: Uncertain Defeat - by Autumn - 10-31-2023, 03:08 AM
RE: Uncertain Defeat - by Ray2064 - 10-31-2023, 07:48 AM
RE: Uncertain Defeat - by Snake - 11-01-2023, 02:34 PM
RE: Uncertain Defeat - by MothEnthusiast - 11-02-2023, 12:35 AM
RE: Uncertain Defeat - by Poruku - 11-02-2023, 01:54 PM

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