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Evade Sucks, man.
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Evade sucks, man.

That's it, that's the thread.



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No, not really.  Evade sucks right now for both sides of the coin. There's way too much hit in the game, way too many evade ignores, and anyone who builds for it can essentially just pretend that evade doesn't exist. On the other side, if you don't build for hit or have ways around it, you just auto lose. This isn't really fun for either side of the coin, and right now I think you're basically damned if you do damned if you don't in terms of evade.

So I want some changes, baby. 

First of all, there's way too many god damned evade ignores in this game. Holy shit there's so many fucking evade ignores, it's a little silly. Especially after the charge mind skill where like a large majority of the mage class now can just evade ignore you and pretend your evade doesn't exist. This is compounded by the fact that evade ignores aren't actually weaker than regular spells, they usually have the same scalings so the fact of the matter is that they're evade ignoring and then dealing a significant chunk of your health bar since you can't actually afford other damage resistance sources. In addition to the fact that now the charge mind and weapon charge stuff makes them deal even *more* damage while ignoring evade. Hell, why don't we let them evade defense and resistance while dealing more damage? Both would essentially set the opponents stats to zero. It doesn't make sense here that only evade suffers this compounding efefct.


To that end, I think the (majority) of evade ignores should be turned to Great Accuracy instead. It sucks to just have all your defensive investment flat ignored, especially when half the time it's doing even more damage now than before. At least let them glance instead so there's a chance to live through a good old Divine SHower - > Excel Fir -> Explosion - > Charge Mind Ryemei fucking blender rather than instant dying.

Secondly, people can get hit that is way, way too high. Like, 260-300 hit is fairly attainable especially as a black knight. Rune mage can easily get to 280+ hit while also negating a large part of your evade with magnetize too, and these aren't the only classes that can get high hit, just the ones that can do it easily. 

I think dodge should have an effect like special strikes. Whenever you don't evade a hit, your chance to evade the next one is minorly increased, perhaps something like 3-5% per attack. This wouldn't be 'on hit' but instead the full attack so thousand stabs or something doesn't increase your chance to dodge to a silly degree.

This should also work the other way. If an enemy misses you, they should get a minor increase in chance to hit you next time. In addition to this, there should be a hit floor.  You should never have zero or a negative chance to hit, there should always be at least some possibility of hitting the enemy. Perhaps ten percent or so.

I also believe there should be a max cap to the hit you can achieve, though I have no solid suggestion on that.
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Evade Sucks, man. - by caliaca - 11-21-2023, 04:53 PM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Rendar - 11-21-2023, 07:18 PM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Trexmaster - 11-21-2023, 11:26 PM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Autumn - 11-22-2023, 12:29 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by MothEnthusiast - 11-22-2023, 03:34 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by FatherCrixius - 11-22-2023, 11:14 PM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by caliaca - 11-23-2023, 12:48 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by FatherCrixius - 11-24-2023, 07:20 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Sawrock - 11-23-2023, 02:18 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by caliaca - 11-23-2023, 02:28 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Sawrock - 11-23-2023, 02:47 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by caliaca - 11-23-2023, 03:42 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Sawrock - 11-23-2023, 04:14 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by caliaca - 11-23-2023, 09:28 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by caliaca - 11-24-2023, 07:51 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Senna - 11-24-2023, 08:59 PM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Snake - 11-27-2023, 07:41 PM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Poruku - 11-28-2023, 05:36 PM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Autumn - 11-28-2023, 08:32 PM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Snarky Soujo - 12-09-2023, 12:53 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Autumn - 12-09-2023, 01:29 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Sawrock - 11-29-2023, 04:59 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Ray2064 - 11-29-2023, 07:02 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Kameron8 - 11-30-2023, 04:15 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Poruku - 12-03-2023, 12:59 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by Snake - 12-09-2023, 01:33 AM
RE: Evade Sucks, man. - by MothEnthusiast - 01-04-2024, 07:26 PM

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