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Gone Nuclear
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(10 hours ago)Lolzytripd Wrote:
(Yesterday, 09:02 PM)Autumn Wrote:
(Yesterday, 05:27 AM)Lolzytripd Wrote: Feels like a slippery slope, gonna soft cap  swa at 150 next too,  this to me feels like  an attack on the fantasy of playing an elemental specialist.

Lolzy, I don't really think the whatabout-isms are helping here, you also seem to be very defensive when this thread isn't about you, its been a problem for a very long time beyond what you've accomplished, we had these builds back in G6 too and back in pre-GR2.

The problem lies in the elemental ATKs themselves, not the dances or youkai evokes, on normal builds the dances deal comparable damage to regular spells, changing those would make having absurdly high elemental ATK the only builds available for them which is not fair, also this is not to say I don't think SWA should be lower either, to imply that I wouldn't have thoughts on how SWA interacts with certain skills would just be incorrect.

This is not an attack on playing an elemental specialist, this is addressing the sheer ridiculousness of the numbers currently achievable by these builds, if you cannot acknowledge just from a objective point of view how much getting 140-150+ elemental ATK is, let alone 200+, then there is nothing more for me to discuss with you. .
Why only now, why not back then, as you've said this was achievable back in g6 ( my whole build is g6 items except for 6 lightning attack from thunderheart enchants)


Why aren't we addressing how the elemental attack is leveraged instead? 

And no, with the amount of dr available and how easy it is to stack elemental resist these days I don't think being able to build 140-150 pre combat elemental attack

Look back in a lot of the previous patch notes and you will see that it has been attempted many times before, it resulted in Youkai evokes being nerfed, it resulted in dance scalings being nerfed, among many other things, both of these are actually rather normal now, there are some outliers still like Thunder Steps but for the most part they aren't actually that much better than some of their SWA counterparts, unless of course you have so much elemental ATK that you deal much more damage than SWA could ever hope to achieve on it's own, even Firebird, the SWA class, doesn't get to the numbers that elemental ATK can potentially get to.

It has been attempted many times, and no I don't think Solblader's or Ghost's DR is the only reason why you should be allowed to achieve such ridiculous numbers, elemental specialization should look more in the 100-130 range, not beyond that. The solution to damage creep is to build to survive, that is why people build crit evade, that is why people build for massive swathes of magic DR, why they build elemental resistance vs Verglas etc.
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Gone Nuclear - by Autumn - 11-15-2024, 10:17 PM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Sawrock - 11-16-2024, 01:34 AM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Lolzytripd - 11-16-2024, 02:02 AM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Raigen.Convict - 11-16-2024, 02:28 AM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Snake - 11-16-2024, 01:49 PM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Poruku - 11-16-2024, 03:27 PM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Autumn - 11-16-2024, 09:32 PM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Rendar - 11-16-2024, 10:02 PM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Sawrock - Yesterday, 12:21 AM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Rendar - Yesterday, 01:23 AM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Autumn - Yesterday, 01:59 AM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Lolzytripd - Yesterday, 02:02 AM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Poruku - Yesterday, 04:50 AM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Lolzytripd - Yesterday, 05:27 AM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Rendar - Yesterday, 02:28 PM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Lolzytripd - Yesterday, 03:26 PM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by pilcrow - 9 hours ago
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Lolzytripd - 7 hours ago
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Autumn - Yesterday, 09:02 PM
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Lolzytripd - 10 hours ago
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Autumn - 9 hours ago
RE: Gone Nuclear - by Caboozles - 1 hour ago
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