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Crit evade meta
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My take for most of the worry of "what if it's not enough" is just that the numbers can be adjusted further to the point where it is balanced... and hell maybe it would make people build defense, instead of relying on Ogatas.

(12-09-2024, 06:09 AM)matthewmwps Wrote: Playing a tank, I do feel like CE might be a bit crazy sometimes if people go all in on it.

Though I worry if this change is put in, it would cause problems with weapons that have 'on crit' effects. The electric axe with its promised irresistible sound attack on crit comes to mind. I think for the momentum economy it can work, but those would need some balancing too.

I feel like the answer here would just be to nerf Electric axe, or make it so that Cevade does actually reduce the damage of on-crits.

(12-09-2024, 07:12 AM)Ray2064 Wrote: I still want Boneheart to 'cap' itself beyond a certain threshold, maybe in such a way that it'd stop bumping numbers around 85-90 Critical evade before other buffs. So if you had, say, 80 Cevade and put on Boneheart, it could only bump you up to 90 by itself rather than 105. It'd work a bit more like an equalizer than a kick to critters' shins.


That way, I think the change would  only really impact the much higher ends of critical evade (things like FAI BKs getting to the 120s, and the recent tank uprise with Solblader come to mind)

This would also work.. 


To compare Cevade to Evade, Evade itself is capped, and there's only so much you can get reasonably get, however you can also completely stomp over Evade with certain builds and get hit to the point where it doesn't exist, there's buttons that invalidate it, and there's tools to reduce it, cat mask for one is an item that many people can equip to get rid of evade buffs which are necessary to evade at all, and evade is a stat that requires -A LOT- more investment from the player, including constantly spending turns to reapply it.

Cevade on the other hand is largely passive, the stats it is attached to are good and provide offense, it has a huge chest enchantment boost which is easily quick-swappable to, and it makes the opponent have to spend momentum on buffs (buffs which are often rare to find) while you pelt them to even have a chance at critting, and nowadays even with Northen Wind + Bloody Karma it's not enough to get consistent results.
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Crit evade meta - by zericosmic - 12-09-2024, 03:05 AM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Poruku - 12-09-2024, 03:37 AM
RE: Crit evade meta - by matthewmwps - 12-09-2024, 06:09 AM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Ray2064 - 12-09-2024, 07:12 AM
RE: Crit evade meta - by caliaca - 12-09-2024, 09:20 AM
RE: Crit evade meta - by zericosmic - 12-09-2024, 02:03 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Lolzytripd - 12-09-2024, 03:08 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Ray2064 - 12-12-2024, 06:14 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Collector - 12-09-2024, 04:57 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Autumn - 12-09-2024, 08:31 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Lolzytripd - 12-09-2024, 10:52 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Raigen.Convict - 12-09-2024, 09:16 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Ray2064 - 12-10-2024, 04:51 AM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Rendar - 12-10-2024, 05:37 AM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Ray2064 - 12-10-2024, 06:45 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Rendar - 12-10-2024, 07:15 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by zericosmic - 12-12-2024, 06:44 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Poruku - 12-12-2024, 07:58 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by caliaca - 12-12-2024, 10:38 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Senna - 12-14-2024, 12:06 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Ray2064 - 12-14-2024, 05:01 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Miller - 12-14-2024, 12:55 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Autumn - 12-14-2024, 07:17 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Sawrock - 12-14-2024, 05:04 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by zericosmic - 12-14-2024, 05:16 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Poruku - 12-14-2024, 05:24 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Miller - 12-14-2024, 06:08 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Trexmaster - 12-14-2024, 06:09 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Caboozles - 12-14-2024, 07:25 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Trexmaster - 12-14-2024, 07:42 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Rendar - 12-15-2024, 05:27 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Poruku - 12-15-2024, 08:40 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by zericosmic - 12-16-2024, 03:11 AM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Rendar - 12-16-2024, 04:22 AM
RE: Crit evade meta - by caliaca - 12-16-2024, 12:33 AM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Miller - 12-16-2024, 04:05 PM
RE: Crit evade meta - by Sawrock - 12-16-2024, 12:45 AM

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