[Jay]

MakeshiftWalrus » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:01 pm[/url]"]

Right, I had completely forgotten the elemental swords existed. Most of those are at least resistible, though, so I don't see why you'd ever want to change from your far superior Slash damage for those.

It's the -diversity- that is the problem. You are casting between light, dark, water, fire, slash magic damage. Everything is resistible. And I'm not sure what you mean by 'far superior slash damage'.

MakeshiftWalrus » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:01 pm[/url]"]
I suppose the comparison to a spell could be made, but considering that it scales off Strength rather than Willpower, checks for accuracy (I know it doesn't matter against BKs, but I'm still including it.) as well as requires you to be in melee range of whoever you want to hit I don't think a raise to the cost would do much other than frustrate the few people who doesn't have a lot of Focus to throw around. Besides, there's still ways to reduce the damage by tons via guarding. Eventually you're going to run out of Focus if you spam PG, especially if your hits won't do anything but hit for 35~ damage per hit while you sit behind your shield. Combined with Monk you're capable of healing it back even.

The whole point is that it scales off Strength instead of a melee's paltry Willpower. The checking for accuracy is slightly irrelevant for a clear reason. 1) A character who can actively dodge your attacks likely has slightly lower defense, same resistance and defense, or absurd resistance to begin with. And you'd prioritize skills such as wazabane or autohits. As for 'frustrate' the few people, that's open for discussion. So I'd be nice if people give feedback on the cost being raised. Now guard.. is silly. It combats every single damage output, not just PG, so that's probably best left for another thread. But if you want to be technical, ghosts have a neat skill that breaks guard, you can probably guess what it is.

MakeshiftWalrus » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:01 pm[/url]"]
I know it's easy to stack crit chance. Very much so, even for non-Archers. I myself sport a (Boosted) 19 power 40+ crit sword with 5 weight that benefits from Fitting Form. I don't agree with having it lack critical strikes given that's essentially what the Duelist trees work around. Leaving it without a chance to crit would make it worse than most of the Monk skills, to which they could just turn in order to bust down tanks. Hell, we all know Monk/Kensei is broken. And everything benefits from AD, it's not just PG. Literally everything that hurts, AD benefits in a significant way, which I would agree is pretty dumb. But I don't think limiting the skill either would be any better. It's a spiral of getting things banned from its effect until nothing remains. If you give PG the limitation that's going to feel unfair seeing as the monks are still scaling 1-1 on Setting Sun and pretty darn well on Dragon Gale and that it does more/slightly less with an additional effect. We could instead do it to all magical damage-based attacks, but then where would we be?

The fact you're comparing a base class to a promo class says a lot about the base class. The Duelist tree offers three other sword skills that can potentially crit. And yes, everything benefits, but some things take it to the next level (see: PG, Charge Weapons, Charged Mind). I'd rather not think too much on 'Duelists' needing to be as competent as 'Monks'. But as I said, PG currently has diversity. A setting sun and dragon gale are static fire/wind damages. Easily stacked -together-. There are attributes that each have better than the other, in fact, PG is way more deadlier if you bring in factors such as Charge Weapons. -- Anyway, as far as the AD suggestions go, it will still fully boost basic attack skills, namely the ones in the Duelist Tree anyway. Which is fine and all, if PG gets a necessary fix.