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Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear
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(03-29-2022, 02:54 PM)Snake Wrote: I think the kicker here are "Spells". All of spell damages are an absurd because "silence is a counterplay it's fine", which is the current flawed argument in regards to it.

The moment a mage can sit on the backlines flinging spells here and there and Blinking away because now they have global range is when things begin tipping on the margin of 'broken'. Especially when some Ascended Youkai are also included into the fray. Don't forget Priest had an absurd range with its spells and had been bapped down solely because they could outrun melee people and avoid silence inflictions by just zoning people from afar.

That's what the current Talis staves are doing.

So I MEAN, if we want them to stay this way, I think they'll need to be tuned down a bit, scaling wise, so they're not preferred over tomes, or at -least-, make them be used 'with' tomes, so people don't further stack Bloody Palms or Idol on top of it, or a Fang-Faced Shield to blow things out of the water.

The only blink interaction with global range is with onyx head staff (general/huggesoan domain) talis. I had already listed this to be an outlier in talis interactions and should be addressed as a seperate case becase whether or not talis is changed to have increased momentum or less range, casting from it in general is the issue with blink. You can blink anywhere so long as it's in the center of the map. As stated, an outlier interaction. I believe blink should only be cast from self to alleviate this issue, along with some other spells whom could cover the map.

Current talis staves are not simply kite tools, no. I'm sorry kunai but the one interaction with me kiting does not rest with talis. It's western wind and spirit talvyd giving me 15 tile movement. There is a difference between casting first moving and then moving while leaving the talis behind to cast from. In either scenario it ends up being a case of how far away someone can get from their talis after placing it. 
 
 Spells are 100% swa and then 40>120 elemental scaling, up to 180 or 200 in invocation levels.  Building elemental comes with it's own tax but this should be a separate thread to address spells being powerful.

Tuning down the staves is an option, or hey if we were just reading my other post? Buff tomes and give them weapon parts. They aren't being used because hit rate is such a necessity and a big part of what makes martial weapons more viable to land hit checks is stacking hit parts. Once this is done and Tome/staves are on equal footing for design, then we could address talis staves more accurately.
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Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by Poruku - 03-23-2022, 12:47 AM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by sadbot - 03-23-2022, 07:24 AM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by HaTeD - 03-23-2022, 07:50 AM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by Poruku - 03-23-2022, 05:23 PM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by WaifuApple - 03-23-2022, 07:28 PM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by Poruku - 03-23-2022, 08:02 PM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by Autumn - 03-23-2022, 08:37 PM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by Poruku - 03-23-2022, 09:24 PM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by WaifuApple - 03-23-2022, 10:16 PM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by Poruku - 03-23-2022, 10:36 PM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by HaTeD - 03-24-2022, 12:12 AM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by Snake - 03-25-2022, 02:51 PM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by sadbot - 03-26-2022, 01:44 PM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by Autumn - 03-26-2022, 05:35 PM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by Poruku - 03-29-2022, 06:41 AM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by HaTeD - 03-29-2022, 07:48 AM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by Poruku - 03-29-2022, 02:20 PM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by Snake - 03-29-2022, 02:54 PM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by HaTeD - 03-29-2022, 03:24 PM
RE: Deploy Talis and Frozen Fear - by Snake - 03-29-2022, 09:45 PM

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