[Kameron8]

Needle is doing zero damage for every needle when stolen by a Spellthief that's a destiny rogue. Here is all the relevant information I have:

1. The Spellthief was a destiny rogue, and therefore had no way to put points into needle.
2. The Spellthief had 5/5 points in Overload Copy, and a casting implement with some light attack.
3. A second, non-destiny'd, Spellthief stole Needle and was able to inflict damage with it without any trouble. They had 5/5 points in Needle, since that portion of the class board wasn't locked out for them.
4. The second Spellthief had 0/5 pooints in Overload Copy.

So unless Overload Copy is causing issues with Needle, destiny rogue may be interacting with it in a way that breaks it. The character in question does not do low enough damage to have Needle hit zero damage naturally from anything like Magic Armor.

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[Snake]

That happens because Needle and stolen spells use /your/ skill level, apparently? Being a Destiny Rogue without being a Mage/Curate/Summoner/whatever-has-magic-to-spend-points-on is going to make you inefficient and period.

[Autumn]

That happens because Needle and stolen spells use /your/ skill level, apparently? Being a Destiny Rogue without being a Mage/Curate/Summoner/whatever-has-magic-to-spend-points-on is going to make you inefficient and period.

Destiny Rogue is supposed to count you as having max rank in all spells you have stolen, this happened a long time ago.

[Kameron8]

It does count as max rank for most spells. Wretched Oil applies poison level 30 even though I never put a point into it, etc.

[DankDarkSol]

Yeah this is a bug, as most other skills in the game if you steal/grab them some other method such as Vydel, Steal, or others like that, and have destiny on, it'll go off of max level. I wonder if there are other skills like this that you wouldn't normally have, but could be possible now.

[Neus]

Is there a character key + slot that I can download to quickly test this out with?

[Kameron8]

Sure. The character no longer has needle, so you'll need to steal it again.

Key: Dat_Shaitan
Slot: 3 (The bottom most slot)

[Neus]

This has been corrected.