[Rendar]

OK. This is just a random aside, but it'sbeen bothering me for awhile now.

STR (main scaling) weapons got +CRIT equal to 0.4 crit per 1 scaled strength. This is all well and good, except there is a small discrepancy that I really think should be looked at (or at least adjusted).

There are a lot of weapons that have some part strength scaling, that would benefit from.. actually having crit (and they're basic attack weapons, no less). Balrog is a primary example of this, where it wants to crit-- but doesn't actually have the support to crit unless you're dumping a TON of luck, strength, wil, and ski.. and then you'll want guile to augment the crit damage.

My solution is really just.. Have strength, uniformly, augment crit by 0.4:1 scaled strength.

The following weapons will see the most benefit with this change, with me putting bold emphasis on specific weapons that either have some kind of On Hit/Crit.

Tarnell
Firthrower
Shotgun Tonfa
Holy Word
Hikage
Ninshi Shuriken
Red Letter
Balrog
Fire Tome line
Forgrint
Grandovyn
Rexys
Manic Slasher
Zhuquelar


All of these weapons have some portion of STR scaling, and also all benefit from Mastery of Weapon Arts to enhance their SWA... but then they are all having to build an exorbinant amount of luck to actually basic attack and crit with them.

On a character not building strength outside of Apt, they are liable to land in the 14~20 range, depending on a few factors. So on average, crit will go up by about 5.6~8 for everyone, with specific use cases (People building 40~50 strength) getting an extra 16~20 crit.

Ultimately, I think it would be a fantastic change, to help open up build viability-- just like strength crit did on launch for almost every single physical weapon that required Strength.

[Autumn]

It shouldn't be a downside that your weapon is sub-STR scaling and not main-STR scaling. Even Howling Handshot gets to benefit from it's STR scaling and it flourishes for that. I'd like to be able to crit with my Balrog reliably and I think this would help that.

[Poruku]

I think this should only apply to weapons that do not have main STR scaling. So a yukijin would still get the same crit as a kouenjin, unchanged, but your devil's tome and fire tessen will get some extra crit.

[Rendar]

I think this should only apply to weapons that do not have main STR scaling. So a yukijin would still get the same crit as a kouenjin, unchanged, but your devil's tome and fire tessen will get some extra crit.

???

Currently Strength gives 0.4 crit per scaled strength to Strength scaling weapons. Nothing will change whatsoever for all strength main stat scaling weapons.

This topic is about expanding the 0.4 crit per scaled strength to all weapons.

[Poruku]

I'm dumb, I thought this was like, proportional to actual strength scaling lol

Yeah I like the idea of just having strength give that crit bonus globally

[Miller]

When I personally advocated for STR crit, I assumed it would be global. So I'm all for this.

That said, I do think it's worth noting that this will increase the value of STR buffs for non-STR scaling weapons as a side effect. I don't think there's any real concern on that front, but if there is; it could just be weapons that have a STR scaling tag. (including MoWA) That said, I'd rather just have it changed to be global and see how it goes first.