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I HATE BONDER I HATE BONDER
#11
Finally somebody says it, and breaks it down too. Hard agree.

I think bonder as a class is strong, but nothing too wild for the most part. I think most of the blame lies with youkai in conjunction with bonder, and the frankly ridiculous benefits you can gain from just having a seiryuu sitting on the field or installing many of them for 3m. Pretty much every point has already been mentioned previously, so all I'll say is that I totally agree with the points made in the original post and the spitballed ideas for fixing things as well.
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#12
About 'Shared Pain', I'd rather it did no damage at all, so to not spam the combat log the same way it does.

Make it behave like Wraithguard. Reduce the damage by half before all calculations, and immediately reduce HP, ignoring defenses/resistances/armor from the party who's taking the share.

It "might" make this skill both more balanced (since you or your Youkai will be taking the full, unaltered damage numbers from Shared Pain's damage reduction, like how Wraithguard does), and less spammy in the battle log, which would be very appreciated.
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#13
Yes please! The spam is really annoying and changing shared pain to hp removal would make a lot more sense from a balance and lore perspective
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#14
!IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!
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YOUKAI CAN DODGE SHARED PAIN
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Hey guys, did you know that in terms of SL2 PvP, Seiryuu is the most compatible Youkai for Summoners? Not only are they in the Dragon Subtype, which is mostly comprised of Daisengan, Seiryuu are an average of 27”03’ tall and 21517581.9 pounds, this means they’re large enough to block your fucking screen, and with their impressive Base Stats for HP and access to Punishing Winds, you can be Shit on by one. Due to their mostly Wind based biology, there’s no doubt in my mind that an Ascended Seiryuu would be incredibly Bonded, so wet that you could easily have Shared Pain with one for hours without getting Low. They can also learn the moves 6 Tile Pull, Punishing Winds LV60, Hunted LV30, 5 Base Movement, and Daisengan, along with having Scales to Stop Crits, so it’d be incredibly easy for one to get you in the Red HP. With their abilities Parted Pain and 300 FP, They can easily be out for 99 turns. No other Youkai comes close to this level of Cringe. Also, fun fact, if you BUY PATRIONS, you can make your Seiryuu turn Black. Seiryuu is literally built for PVP. Ungodly defense stat+high HP pool+Hunted means the summoner can take cock all day, all shapes and sizes and still come for more
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Bonders.
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