03-16-2016, 01:33 AM
Unfortunately, Sarin, you really did hit a big nail on the head with the poor excuses for roleplay. Girl loses an arm at the shoulder, goes "awesome, I always wanted a penis" and sticks it in her pants for a bulge. And somehow gets her girlfriend pregnant with it. It's just a big joke to everyone. Screw the logic, screw the lore, screw word of Dev saying "that's not possible in this world I've created." Screw everything, it's all about the shits and giggles. And quite honestly, it's so dumb I refuse to waste my efforts coming up with creative ways of insulting it. A big part of my efforts to get more players has indeed been to try to bring up the overall quality of roleplay. An effort completely wasted in the face of... well...
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(Obvious disclaimer: I only know this happened because of the "Funny Quotes" thread. And it was clearly in a player house. And this was clearly just spammed for RP exp. But it goes to show that as is, RP exp is presently an unfortunate joke if people can do this for it instead of actively roleplaying. I just grabbed this as a blatantly obvious example of memes taking priority over roleplay.)
Point being, my "bad reputation" regarding my post history has been largely from playing new alts a lot instead of LEing to shit, and examining things from the eyes of a new player for the sake of the people I invite. "I know ______ would love this class combo. _____ looks like a potential issue. I'll try it for mysef and see how it pans out. Welp, I was right." If I just wanted good characters, I'd LE and do it like everyone else. I'm trying to bring a bit more balance to things overall so it's not "Meta or Bust." It's not my problem that so many others are all "mah mettagayme omfg go die in a fire ran."
But enough about that for now. I'm getting to it in a few days. One topic at a time. I'll get back to your point about the RP consequences and such, then. It does tie in to things. For a taste, see http://www.neus-projects.net/viewtopic.p...amp;t=2451 as an example: an optional self-imposed consequence set being met with a lot of resistance because lol.
Besides one last point about Byond - that being I've played a game with over 80 people and no lag, before - but the game was taken down due to a DMCA notice so I can't show any proof - so the hosting IS at least a part of the issue... Otherwise, I have no objections to the rest of your post - it's an accurate analysis of the way things presently are, and it's not like we can just force change, despite some things, like "dem meems," being... well... unwanted and unappreciated. Unfortunately, and this is an entirely personal issue, I don't think GM tools are enough of a step in the right direction when we only have two... and one is on haitus while the other runs the Guard system, which, as you pointed out, is kind of flawed in the worst way. (No offense, Chaos. Well, maybe some offense, that depends.)
But yeah. Back to Felkesste's points: Massively in agreement. On everything. I, myself, would have left by now if not for various reasons (Such as a completely POS comp being unable to run better games for RP, and the emotional attachment I built to SL2 early on in my playing, in some chance good roleplay that made me feel real emotions and led to meeting a lot of pretty okay people.) And even then, at times it's gotten to the point that I've simply gone on haitus for a bit, because wtf. I'm not asking for amazing RP, but an ATTEMPT at RP would be nice.
It's like, "I'll create a good tanky character. Like a BK." And then your slow platemail ass is still outtanked by some little shit in a T-shirt because someone thought it'd be funny to have a fragile-looking character be tougher than tempered plate. It's like, "What are your roleplay reasons for being so tough? Magical warding? Just being an illusion while your real body is 10 feet away? Maybe-" "My reasons are get fucking rekt!" This kind of nonsensical nonsense really does drive people off.
Plus, you need to be an adventurer to do ANY profession. Want to be a blacksmith? Materials in BDPs. Want to cook? Materials in BDPs. Want to - B D FUCKING P! And your character level needs to rise to affect your crafting levels. So unless you have a friend OOCly grind you (ugh, OOC - for a game flagged as RP mandatory in the description on Byond, OOC does seem to be like 90% of what goes on, doesn't it?) you can only accomplish so much via transactions/RP.
Point being... a part-time job system would be great. Because it's exactly like you said: If the other players are a bunch of goobers, at least having more solo content could keep you playing.
(Obvious disclaimer: I only know this happened because of the "Funny Quotes" thread. And it was clearly in a player house. And this was clearly just spammed for RP exp. But it goes to show that as is, RP exp is presently an unfortunate joke if people can do this for it instead of actively roleplaying. I just grabbed this as a blatantly obvious example of memes taking priority over roleplay.)
Point being, my "bad reputation" regarding my post history has been largely from playing new alts a lot instead of LEing to shit, and examining things from the eyes of a new player for the sake of the people I invite. "I know ______ would love this class combo. _____ looks like a potential issue. I'll try it for mysef and see how it pans out. Welp, I was right." If I just wanted good characters, I'd LE and do it like everyone else. I'm trying to bring a bit more balance to things overall so it's not "Meta or Bust." It's not my problem that so many others are all "mah mettagayme omfg go die in a fire ran."
But enough about that for now. I'm getting to it in a few days. One topic at a time. I'll get back to your point about the RP consequences and such, then. It does tie in to things. For a taste, see http://www.neus-projects.net/viewtopic.p...amp;t=2451 as an example: an optional self-imposed consequence set being met with a lot of resistance because lol.
Besides one last point about Byond - that being I've played a game with over 80 people and no lag, before - but the game was taken down due to a DMCA notice so I can't show any proof - so the hosting IS at least a part of the issue... Otherwise, I have no objections to the rest of your post - it's an accurate analysis of the way things presently are, and it's not like we can just force change, despite some things, like "dem meems," being... well... unwanted and unappreciated. Unfortunately, and this is an entirely personal issue, I don't think GM tools are enough of a step in the right direction when we only have two... and one is on haitus while the other runs the Guard system, which, as you pointed out, is kind of flawed in the worst way. (No offense, Chaos. Well, maybe some offense, that depends.)
But yeah. Back to Felkesste's points: Massively in agreement. On everything. I, myself, would have left by now if not for various reasons (Such as a completely POS comp being unable to run better games for RP, and the emotional attachment I built to SL2 early on in my playing, in some chance good roleplay that made me feel real emotions and led to meeting a lot of pretty okay people.) And even then, at times it's gotten to the point that I've simply gone on haitus for a bit, because wtf. I'm not asking for amazing RP, but an ATTEMPT at RP would be nice.
It's like, "I'll create a good tanky character. Like a BK." And then your slow platemail ass is still outtanked by some little shit in a T-shirt because someone thought it'd be funny to have a fragile-looking character be tougher than tempered plate. It's like, "What are your roleplay reasons for being so tough? Magical warding? Just being an illusion while your real body is 10 feet away? Maybe-" "My reasons are get fucking rekt!" This kind of nonsensical nonsense really does drive people off.
Plus, you need to be an adventurer to do ANY profession. Want to be a blacksmith? Materials in BDPs. Want to cook? Materials in BDPs. Want to - B D FUCKING P! And your character level needs to rise to affect your crafting levels. So unless you have a friend OOCly grind you (ugh, OOC - for a game flagged as RP mandatory in the description on Byond, OOC does seem to be like 90% of what goes on, doesn't it?) you can only accomplish so much via transactions/RP.
Point being... a part-time job system would be great. Because it's exactly like you said: If the other players are a bunch of goobers, at least having more solo content could keep you playing.
*loud burp*
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