[Kameron8]

the Verglas fox skills are fancy fist weapon skills not spells, They don't scale on tomes, only one fist scales on willpower.

rant

you only want that scaling because you are using the spell edge fist.....

They do pure ice damage and Dev likes his elemental abilities to lean on their elemental atk.

I'm okay with the fp costs

also the way weapon scaling on skills works is for instance with needler or the magical fist using 150% scaled weapon attack (str 110%)*1.5 =165% str scaling and (65%65%)*1.5 and 95% str and will scaling

which is why you don't want to go huge into scaled weapon attack on abilities because the damage will get huge



and before you say it should keep a will scaling because old times, nothing is sacred, setting sun scales on strength now.

This post simply does not make sense. Dev has stated he thinks the loss of identity for Hare and Fox skills are valid concerns, and currently the only way to scale efficiently with their abilities is to stack strength. Because all of the fist weapons scale almost entirely with strength, with slight exception to the Spelledge and one large exception to Mortismo, any Verglas who wants to deal moderately good damage needs strength. However, Fox and Hare skill trees shouldn't care about strength, and trying to patch up this issue by introducing stuff like 100% cel scaling fist, or 100% will scaling fists, just means everyone with that stat can still use every single tree at full potential. What you have said makes almost no sense to me, and as far as I can tell it's a rehashed version of "It works for me so stop complaining".