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Regarding Romek Pt. 2
#75
"Neus" Wrote:First of all, throwing all your chips onto the back of a situation where the party you're defending was clearly, undeniably in the wrong isn't a great idea. If these issues are so important they deserve their own topics, not to be lumped together with something unrelated.

"Purp" Wrote:F) A portion of people don't come to you or the GMs for exactly the reason Kunai's been screaming about for the last hour. They either believe saying anything is useless and won't change anything. Another portion of people wouldn't come to GMs for their grievances, much less you. You're not an approachable person. Sorry.

The logical solution, then, is to say nothing. That will definitely change things.

If you have issues with GMs and don't bring them to my attention, then that's on you, not me. Saying I'm 'not approachable' and trying to blame me is silly.

"Purp" Wrote:E) I've provided logs of a GM saying that godmodding wasn't a one-lined post that doesn't give anyone a chance to react.

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The most infamous example is when I ran an event for my group. Guards were clearly implied to be there. A person belonging to CE ran in, tacked a flyer on the wall, and left in one post without giving anyone else a chance to respond. That is godmodding. However, after this was brought to an admin's attention, this was the response.

Godmodding is forcing other characters to react or behave a certain way. It would godmodding for me to punch your character in the gut, saying they didn't have time to react, and that they were now on the floor, coughing up blood. It isn't godmodding for someone to enter a room, put a poster on the wall, and walk out. That series of events can play out very quickly, you can still react to it after the fact, and your reaction to it is not at all designated; you are free to do so in whatever manner you choose. The poster isn't invincible. You could tear it down, burn it, whatever you wanted.

There were guards implied to be there, okay. I can understand where you're coming from with that. Did you get GM permission for these guards? Were the guards represented by anything, NPCs, PCs? If you didn't get permission then, in a way, having an army of invisible guards is godmodding in itself. Something to think about. If that's the most infamous example then things must not be as apocalyptic as suggested.

That wasn't a statement geared towards blaming you. People say I'm not approachable: It's partially because I have resting bitch face on fleek, and it's partially because those people are too timid. It's not one party's fault or the others. Hell, I wouldn't come up to you unless it was direly needed (see: Roxy and other's reasons behind that).

As stated in the petition, there's various definitions as to what godmodding is. The way it was taught to me happens to involve your explanation. When it comes to actions (again, as I was taught), definite wording is a no-no. Including 'attempt' or 'try' in a post allows for more flexibility to those reacting.

To your question: Yes. I gave the opening post to Chaos and he actually reviewed it. Even commented on how many unneeded details there were about security, and my response to that was "it's a lot, but I have a feeling someone might try something". Low and behold. In the end, it was resolved with an omit (you probably despise that word). But that wasn't what rustled my jimmies. It's the fact that that one-line post-and-go nonsense could certainly be perceived as godmodding, to which Chaos did say could be seen as such. It was rectified, and I appreciate Chaos' efforts in the matter. Like I said, this was only mentioned since it directly effected me, and I can testify to things being tucked away.
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