[DoctorMad]

I'm gonna be honest Snake and Fern seem like you both want cinder tile users to SUFFER while I want them to be LESS INTIMIDATINGLY STRONG but not useless. 50% reduction for all push/pulls doesn't sound too evil, but 50% reduction per cinder tile means 1 and a half cinder tiles worth of damage and then you can't do anymore with them. Maybe I was too light on the numbers I gave, but it's not my choice at the end of the day.

I mean, I'm pretty sure cinders are strong enough right now that your nerf would be too little. You said it yourself, the final damage would still be around 200 per attack.

I'm conflicted on it though, maybe that's the nerf we should go for.
Buffs/nerfs should preferably be small adjustments, to avoid going too far and making something useless.