09-01-2020, 08:48 AM
(09-01-2020, 05:36 AM)Mr.SmileGod Wrote: A) I'm fairly sure that geists aren't the only thing affected by clumsy in this scenario. The other one would be Korken, another big skill for boxer mobility.
Even if Korkenzieher is affected, not much changes. If it isn't, you can hit them! ...if you have high enough Schwarz, and they're in a directly line from you. I don't see that last criteria happening often, even without clumsy coming into play.
Quote:B) A net loss of 1 in a skill that caps at 8 is still pretty huge, especially when it can take as many as 4 turns to build to 8. Being limited to literally ONLY regen to build your class's main mechanic is pretty wack.
One Schwarz Sturm is equal to a 5% damage modifier. At eight Schwarz, you're doing (5*8)% more damage. At seven, you're doing (5*7)% more damage. It's not that much, especially when you consider this is per round you have a specific negative debuff actively hindering you - if this was just how things were normally, there'd be issue, but I don't think people shouldn't be punished for having a negative status effect.
Quote:C) Clumsy is pretty strong when paired with movement debilitating skills, such as BK's new Forced Move, Celsius shell, Celsius seeds for Dynamics, Cripple Leg, Earthbound Fog, Immobilize, the list goes on. In most cases, a boxer would not even be able to fight back if both were in play.
Should they be able to? That sounds like a bad matchup for boxers, someone kitted with clumsy and a movement killer, but if they manage to pull it off, I think that's perfectly fair on them for working around your class' limitations and exploiting it's weaknesses.
I only know two methods of inflicting clumsy (there's probably more) - ryesers and a racial trait for Wyverntouched. In both instances, these moves are Geist-able themselves. You can eins for basic attacks, zwei if they're going to use cripple arm or cripple leg to hit you. Zwei works on WT bites. Clumsy isn't exactly guaranteed to hit a Boxer - it isn't even guaranteed to hit anyone. I don't see why we should make it irrelevant for when it DOES.
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