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Twin-fire Bow Shooting
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(03-30-2022, 08:11 AM)Kazzy Wrote: I don't see it being too strong. Bows don't have good effects and generally have bad scaling as weapons.


I will die on the hill that a mutated electric axe being the best bow is a problem for the entire bow category. Not because E-Axe is too good, but because all the bows are trash.
 
This is an issue I've been seeing more and more as time has gone on, mostly in the sense that even with how good some bow effects and bow weapon parts are, the entire weapon type itself is invalidated by mutations really, even mutations from STR based weapons in some cases. This isn't to say the mutations are too strong, as you lose an enchant slot on top of the bow parts, but to how weak bows are as a weapon type as a whole currently. No other weapon type requires you to build all of STR, GUI, SKI, and LUC. Even if you aren't building basics on ranger or Arb (which why wouldn't you), then you still need that STR/GUI/SKI tax anyways. This at minimum makes every non-mutated bow setup a 7-8+ stat build simply due to the weapon facing numerous taxes that no other weapon does:
 
-Farshot requires bows to build 50 scaled gui to hit stuff outside 6ish range without pretty harsh penalties, but they can't benefit from flank to make use of that investment. 
-Strength is a scaling tax melee weps can afford thanks to things such as two-handed and remains materials (Both of which Bows lack). This is on top of bows having the lowest achievable SWA numbers, which is understandable when you consider the potential range, but...
-The above taxes makes the GR2 SKI tax even harder to hit, and unlike guns, there's no hit talent to mitigate this. This results in bows having a lot of hit buffs, but a very low hit cap. Daggers also have low hit similarly, but they can gain the difference in flank, something again bows can't due to closeshot.
 
 
Now looking at what two notable mutations provide:
Electric Axe: Axe weapon parts allow for more crit damage mod to be added, making up the damage loss of bows a bit. Remains helps round out stats, and it has arguably one of the best PvE effects in the game with a 5 range AoE sound damage effect that outpaces nearly all the bow's effects while sharing the scaling.
Tamaki Shuriken: Even after the tool tag nerf, this is my choice for the best bow in the game currently even with the loss of an enchant. The 80% GUI scaling is indeed low, but since bows have to build the stat anyways to function properly, it actually tends to be on-par, if not better on the SWA-front. In addition to this, the shuriken has even more range than other bows, meaning it outdoes their range gimmick. To add insult to injury, it also has a extremely potent on-hit effect that is comparable (if not better) to one of the best regular bows, Bow of the Green Forest, while also having a moderately higher base crit damage mod. Acid flower as a potential also helps a bow user with their AoE damage output, something they otherwise struggle with.
 
 
I know that was all very off the main topic, and that it should probably be its own post. Twin dance for bows is more for flavor and cool class gimmicks more than as a buff for the weapons themselves.
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Twin-fire Bow Shooting - by InsainArcaneBirdbrain - 03-29-2022, 02:30 PM
RE: Twin-fire Bow Shooting - by Snake - 03-29-2022, 02:43 PM
RE: Twin-fire Bow Shooting - by HaTeD - 03-29-2022, 03:13 PM
RE: Twin-fire Bow Shooting - by Kazzy - 03-30-2022, 08:11 AM
RE: Twin-fire Bow Shooting - by adamkad1 - 03-30-2022, 02:20 PM
RE: Twin-fire Bow Shooting - by InsainArcaneBirdbrain - 04-01-2022, 05:00 PM
RE: Twin-fire Bow Shooting - by Kazzy - 04-01-2022, 12:35 PM
RE: Twin-fire Bow Shooting - by Poruku - 04-01-2022, 05:08 PM

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