[Ray2064]

I'm more so referring to Hi-Pots which are accessible on Korvara, which is 200 HP back, and then there's also bandages which can be used outside of battle. A specced out Graft user hits around let's say around 200 or 214 HP let's just say for a guesstimate. While they're not AoE (aside from bandages) they're free of charge in terms of FP which is their pro. As for the argument at hand, I am simply pointing out that all of the points OP made are seemingly based on his pvp experiences (which there is nothing wrong with it just ties into my comment about build scenarios and team compositions) currently and I quote: 

"So here's a simple suggestion, since AOE healing is known to be an utter pain in the ass for teamfights, mostly due to negating entire turns of attacking and actions for no more than 3 momentum, often blocking a team with most of it's firepowering options shut down into an eternal struggle.

So here's a rather simple suggestion-

For each player ally healed, healing gets -15% efficient, capping at around 60% total efficiency. Healing would definitely remain extremely strong that way, but it actually would mean a side that does not have it's own AOE heals/ ways to disable opposite healing would stand a chance in a teamfight."

While a whole team of healers can certainly be oppressive in certain scenarios, I don't think being unprepared for a healer warrants for a nerf. Team compositions sounds more of an unlucky draw than a balance fu thread. There are many forms of interference in the game ranging from magic gunner to evoker to LB itself and even black knight. I just don't see how much more you can remove from them while still retaining cooldowns that already hinder them from spamming it every round and retaining any sense of use before the damage negates the heal itself completely. Because you can already do that depending on the scenario. Keep in mind action economy plays a huge role in a healer too. Not just FP, cooldowns, silence, interference.

I'd believe there is a slight problem in the first place if Healing's very existence warrants having to build around it/having to use it to not be utterly overwhelmed  in team-fighting situations ( which it does)

These recommendations are indeed based off my own experiences, more specifically off a fairly common observation that I've made :
The team with the most healing is the one that wins, with fairly little nuance to it, be it our side or theirs.

The reason's pretty simple - heals tend to be net Momentum gains for the team who has them, on a virtual level ! (I think?)
Seven hundred HP or so spread across a team is often enough to undo an opponent's turn while giving your team a good margin.

As of counters...


BK's main mean of interference, Black Wind Crescent Rook, is often fairly tricky to pull off in team fights due to the way the effect functions, since
straying too far away from your team is often not too good of an idea.

LB's Quetal in itself is a whole can of worms, and the simple fact that one's in the fight throws all conceived ideas, preparations, and counters out of the window, unless the opposite team has an LB to counterbalance it, and probably one of the main causes of the problem.

Your other options remain valid , though frankly, there's not much outside of that than MG, Evoker (lightning) and Hexer.


Confusion might be the best counter when it comes to the healer themselves, though with a good portion of them being capable of having good Status Res (DB, Curates, Summoners) this isn't necessarily reliable. ...Nor do I honestly consider Confusion balanced in a teamfight environment , or at the very least how easy it can be to apply it.

It's way easier said than done to make Interference counteract AOE healing -entirely-, too. Your best bet is to realistically pick a target to isolate, interf them, beat them down, and repeat...Though if you don't have a reliable mean of -keeping- them down, they can get res'd and healed back just as easily.

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I'm going to take a second to say I don't agree with most of these changes because they impact PvE too heavily, and too negatively.

Nerfing teamwide aoe or adding cooldowns before you can get any healing may be great for PvP balance, but I'd say this would gut a lot of your ability to beat these bosses with suboptimal setups. Sometimes you need to heal twice in two turns to keep people alive.
This especially hurts evades who are already on life support in PvE content where bosses have more hit than god and you WILL take damage unless you're maxxing out your debuffs/buffs, and even then the unavoidables will hit you for 200+ before appropriate elemental resistances. (Welcome to Lazarus is fun)
(Adding a 30 turn limit before healing doesn't work also is bad because of high end PvE bosses too)

I'd rather efforts on nerfing healing in PvP center around making counters more plentiful, maybe tweaking healing discharge because that one IS a little absurd, and probably taking a pass at spellthief.

I can agree with that much, since healing is somewhat of a different debate in a PVE setting.


Maybe just disalllow these effects if there are monsters present in the battle, and basta.

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I could vibe with the aforepresented idea of a status that makes heals not easily as spammable, though.