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[Growths] Growth Defaulting System
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"[url=http://neus-projects.net/viewtopic.php?p=5644#p5644 Wrote:MegaBlues » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:00 pm[/url]"]1. Swapping classes to grind with does not need to be IC. You can OOCly equip classes for growths, while ICly having a set of classes which you use. You don't seem to understand this, for some reason. You don't always need to grind ICly, either. Not everyone is a weak greenhorn who comes to Sigrogana, drinks the magic water, and becomes a powerhouse in a week.

(Most) People don't suddenly change classes without some sort of reasoning or RP. Maybe they had a character concept that wasn't possible with the given classes, and then switched when it became possible. Maybe they had some development. Who knows? And if you're having that much trouble getting to 60 and no one wants to help you, maybe that's an issue with how much people (don't) like you in a game focused on cooperation.

I don't ICly "grind." That is stupid. Who the fuck ICly "grinds?" I ICly explore, work, etc. There's good money in securing trade routes, you know, and BDPs show up everywhere. I may have been tasked with a mission to recover cores for research, or even just some cocky man trying to impress a woman. In other words, I like to RP every BDP, whenever the party is in agreement. And yes, I RP attacks; I plan my actions while others are perfoming theirs, and I type fast, so it's not much of a delay at all.

As I stated before, I understand full well that developments come up. However, I've seen FAR, FAAAAAAR too many people ICly say things like "Yeah, I used to be (class name) but now I'm (class name) because I just felt like it" to make me want to pull my hair out. And there really is a limit to what you can RP as something else. For example, let's say my Kensei/Arbalest were to go Kensei/Bonder for a bit... Youkai can't be RP'd as a bow, and it would be a drastic change to simply give up such a primary aspect of your combat style (Pulling shot to reel them in and knock them down, Repel then Sidecut, etc) to do something else. Simply put, changing classes for growths alone is, from an RP standpoint, terrible, and "lol just do it OOCly" is simply a lazy solution.

I do not play this game to grind. I play this game to RP. That's the simple truth.

Quote:2. Some classes naturally compliment one another. Minmaxing is not as omnipotent as you think it is. Having semi-balanced growths is actually much better, and more effective. Having 80 Will is fine and dandy, but not having any defensive stats means you -will- lose the moment that something doesn't fall over the moment you look at it. Which is often. But it's true. Some classes are simply better at PvE. But you're mixing the issues of growths and grinding effectiveness.

The problem is RNG. Here's a screenshot of a level 37 Raid Mech Bonder/Verglas with more balanced growths. The goal was to create an offensive character who can go up against Def or Res equally well, and who doesn't need much in the way of defenses due to Parraeta/Meditate.

https://i.gyazo.com/760a5c468791de26e349...259f99.png

It's best stat is already a full 10 below it's level, with no hope of ever catching up. Sure, it's not terrible, but it will only get worse. This thing does have a serious chance of making it to 60, but it also has a serious chance of needing to leech at 45+ to have any chance of doing enough damage to win, as well.

Here's the issue. You know how you're guaranteed at least 3 stats at level up? If your stats are min/maxed, and your unimportant growths stay low... the odds of getting your other stats increases. Well balanced growths could very well get more total gains overall, but how many of those gains are you using at once? You can either dodge or you can't. You can miss, or it's autohit. You use Physical attacks or you use Magical attacks. At any one time, the vast majority of those stats aren't even coming into play, and the ones that do are simply inferior. If you end up with only 35 str, and your opponent has 0 Def and 40 Res, someone with 80 will is STILL hitting harder than you!

Quote:3. Why wouldn't you LE after unlocking the classes you wanted to grind with? A lack of foresight doesn't mean that the system is broken.

I've said it before and I've said it again: How the fuck can one expect to LE if they're too RNG screwed to make it to 60 in the first place?

Quote:4. Some conversations are alright to intrude on, and some aren't. If you never get a good reaction when you speak to someone, the issue might not lie with them. And these common rants of yours enforce this idea. Also, training day shouldn't affect your computer at all, that's simply the game being laggy.

Oh, I'm not the one intruding. I'm the one being intruded ON. Constantly. Here's a screenshot from a few months ago where I (Welkin Neoma) threatened to call the guards on a guard for harassment over just such an intrusion:

http://i.gyazo.com/eb7a66235046965d3091ff4007e0edd9.png

And yes, it really does affect my computer. I can't barely handle Skype + SL2 at once on this sack of crap comp. More traffic in one area means more data for the comp to proccess. It's not so bad elsewhere, but the arena sometimes crashes it completely on training day.

Quote:EX: A character of mine with 18 Base Resistance takes zero damage from Black Beasts. Equipment is more important than stats. And if you're not taking any damage, you don't need AoEs.

Not trying to be mean here, but you don't seem to have a very good grip on the game's Meta, and should probably refrain from commenting on it until you do.

So... not having good luck with gear drops = not having a good grip on meta? Getting lucky with cores is more important than analyzing classes and applications, strategies and counters, and all that? I disagree. I disagree completely.
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