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[QUE/BAL] Dark Water Buildup
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"[url=http://www.neus-projects.net/viewtopic.php?p=7584#p7584 Wrote:Soapy » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:55 am[/url]"]You're not guaranteed to proc Wraithguard, either - good Hexers get enough status infliction to beat down an Izabe install.
Irrelevant; Wraithguard does not face Status Resistance. In fact, if you're talking about Summoners, they should be able to make even a good Hexer sweat. Between a trait and three Sync-Mind passives that give +10% Status Resistance each, even a decent set of RES/LUC will force a Hexer to min-max their Status Infliction unless they want to go through some heavy (if not outright impossible) gambling.

"[url=http://www.neus-projects.net/viewtopic.php?p=7584#p7584 Wrote:Soapy » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:55 am[/url]"]
30% Darkness Resistance is a 15% reduction in damage to Hexer spells.
30% Fire Resistance is a 30% reduction in damage to Sear.

Sounds pretty fair considering Evokers get access to more elements, right?
Except you can't fight a Hexer as a mage - this spell removes your ability to fight back.
It's easy to get Darkness Resistance while having enough Resistance against other elements; Blue Iron Shield or Void Walker alone are enough to handle Darkness while getting a couple other elements covered.


"[url=http://www.neus-projects.net/viewtopic.php?p=7584#p7584 Wrote:Soapy » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:55 am[/url]"]It's not about the damage being too high. It's the fact that it not only does 17 less damage than an 80 Will Evoker spell, but also cripples so many other things, in a long range, large AoE.
Crippling effects is what Hexer does best. Comparing them to Evoker is like comparing a vial of deadly poison to a Molotov cocktail; they're quite different in function, and not meant to go on the same scale.

Also, there is far more than just a damage difference of 17 points here. If you were to compare Sear and Black Bubble (both at Rank 5), as an Evoker/Hexer, with the proper -Mancy Talents maxed, you'll find that Sear has 32 points over Black Bubble. That's not a number to scoff at. If that wasn't enough, then let's also factor in Charge Mind, which will completely blow Black Bubble's damage out of the water regardless of which Evoker spell is being cast. Or the Invocations, which get a much larger bonus alongside a %-based damage increase from Greaper.

As for the effects themselves, I'll repeat myself once more: the tile effects can be easily avoided. Slow/Immobilize are completely useless status effects, thanks to every single skill that moves the character. Combined with Sanctuary's anti-tile defense, there is literally no reason for someone to get caught dead in Dark Water.
Silence, as I've said before, relies on Status Infliction in order to happen. If the Hexer doesn't have good SKI or good WIL w/ decent SKI, they will be hard-pressed to inflict a status. It's also next to impossible to inflict Etacof on a player unless you can inflict Silence and then land the Hex within the same turn, because no player in their right mind will allow you to lock in Silence unless it wouldn't bother them.



....Oh, right, there's a few other points I haven't touched on:

"BUT CHAOS IT'LL BECOME A LOOP!!11" That depends on you.
Got a Screamer? Use it to punish.
Got Evoker? Send them scrambling with an Invocation prep.
Some other form of knockback? Clear them out before or after you cure yourself. (See: Kick)
Got Hexer? Make them eat their own medicine.
Silence doesn't bother you? Why are you even complaining.
Have none of these things? Shed those delicious tears as you watch your ill-prepared self either run like hell or get torn to shreds.

"BUT CHAOS MUH SUMMONER!!11" So their Sync-Mind shenanigans get hard-countered now. Sounds fine by me; they can either stack Status Resistance, get a class with skills to counteract Black Bubble, or just summon their Youkai. It's not the end of the world; just find a work-around.

EDIT: Apparently I was mistaken about a second anti-status trait. Regardless, 40% plus stats plus other things isn't something to scoff at.
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