07-21-2024, 11:18 AM
??? this isn't a new rule though. you've literally never been allowed to harass ppl or groups of ppl
In Regard To The Recent Announcement
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07-21-2024, 11:18 AM
??? this isn't a new rule though. you've literally never been allowed to harass ppl or groups of ppl
(07-21-2024, 10:19 AM)Soul_Hacker Wrote: think the uh. general gist of it was that, specifically, there were cases of 'edgy/dark criticisms' of women that made folks uncomfortable. Yeah, probably. But I wasn't much of a sonic fan. Either way, I understand the context. I just wished it wasn't worded the way it was. Thanks for the shrimple discussion, by the way, I do appreciate the info exchange. (07-21-2024, 10:22 AM)CuteRedCrab Wrote: I'll be honest, it's disheartening to hear that people have this little faith in the GM team. We pour a lot of time into making sure that the community is safe, and this announcement was a measure we had to take, with how frequent and comfortable people have become with making certain remarks against minorities and women. I'll be honest. The majority have faith in you. This quickly growing thread shows that. I'm simply a jaded person. I do believe you have good intentions. But like I said, sometimes mistakes can be made. This critic isn't an insult you. I just want to make sure no else can have these feelings brew by clarity. (07-21-2024, 10:24 AM)MegaBlues Wrote: Homophobia, transphobia, misogyny, racism, ableism, and all of the other -isms and hate of any kind don't deserve a platform. I'm not trying to make a platform for it if that's what your implying.
07-21-2024, 11:27 AM
Personally I'm of the mind of that, if possible, this thread should get locked down as it's only going to lead to discourse in my honest opinion.
But anyway, more importantly I'm going to be frank and I'm going to be very short on this. I think there's a lot of misunderstanding here. The announcement was, just that, an announcement. All it simply was is making it aware of what has been clearly going down as I myself have been made witness to a few cases of it. In turn it should be made quite obvious however if sexism, racism, or whatever is made towards any other group not mentioned in said announcement? It'd be cracked down upon outright if not reportable by others. That's it. Greetings and salutations, my name is Paa.
I hope you're having a wondrous day today. (07-21-2024, 10:25 AM)Balor Wrote: There are critiques of the community I can understand and endorse. There are lines in the sand in regards to accountability and transparency that should be upheld. But in all my time here I have never had the pleasure of reading a line so loaded. There is no tactic. There is no battle to be fought. I never wanted one to be had. I expected some patience with annoyance, sure. But do be this thoroughly insulted? Not really. Maybe I do deserve it, maybe I don't. All I care about is fairness about punishment and the clarity of it at the end. I don't know what you think of me. But I won't abandoned my values because you think ill of me. (07-21-2024, 11:27 AM)Paa Wrote: Personally I'm of the mind of that, if possible, this thread should get locked down as it's only going to lead to discourse in my honest opinion. That's probably for the best honestly. I doubt anything productive will be made. (07-21-2024, 11:05 AM)JamOfBoy Wrote: Here's a secret - admins speak in a different language. A big announcement like this where they say they're gonna crack down on a particular offense? What it really means is that they've been lenient and it hasn't stopped. The admins were kind enough this time to provide a nice announcement clearly outlining what they're going to be punishing harder. Since, you know, that's what the problem is. So that, specifically, is what they're going to be focusing on. You get me? Thanks for the explanation, actually. I'm not being sarcastic or anything. But a focus on the topic itself is actually a nice change of pace. But nevertheless, I feel like more clarity should be given when they do make announcements. While it is fair I should've known of olden rules of such. I think it's bit of a high bar with how the wiki is in a somewhat state of disrepair. In fact, a edit should probably be made there. (07-21-2024, 11:08 AM)Kotaro Wrote: Accountability for what? Stating an active issue within the community that they've been made increasingly aware of is not acceptable. Offering the warning to stop the behavior and the consequences that follows. Accountability for power. I just wish for more clarity. I'm not against the whole muting thing. I just wish more was added to it. And I will apologize for losing my head on this on the political side. I have real strong values if that wasn't noticed or so. (07-21-2024, 11:18 AM)Vanilla Wrote: ??? this isn't a new rule though. you've literally never been allowed to harass ppl or groups of ppl With the Announcement made and the general lack of... Well, easy to find rule section. Some bits of info can be lost. But like some earlier replier said, yes, it is common sense not to harass people or groups. But do people not do it? Sadly, not. It's why I'm fine with this Announcement. I just wish it wasn't so casual.
07-21-2024, 11:45 AM
Lack of... Well, easy to find rule section??
Homie there's a chat in the discord called server rules that links you to every other rule page.
07-21-2024, 11:48 AM
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07-21-2024, 11:50 AM
in case you're confused about why you're getting the responses you are, let me explain how what you've posted comes across.
now im not necessarily saying it's how you feel or what you're trying to say, im just saying how it looks you've suddenly created a post when it's been made clear ppl can't be bigoted against women or lgbtq people and are talking about accountability. this is the first post if this nature you've ever made you've talked about making sure right wing ppl are protected (noone brought up left or right wing politics) you have talked about being personally offended by the unfairness/lack of balance it is naturally going to look like the real issue is that you're upset that the community is being made a safer place for women and the lgbtq community, that intolerance and bigotry toward them isn't going to be tolerated. any 'balance' would naturally be a middle ground between acceptance and bigotry, which is completely unacceptable there's no real lack of clarity in the announce, everyone else saw it for what it was and understood. it LOOKS like you're just upset that this doesn't fit with your own values
07-21-2024, 11:57 AM
(07-21-2024, 11:50 AM)Vanilla Wrote: in case you're confused about why you're getting the responses you are, let me explain how what you've posted comes across. My middle ground is just blocking every type of hate, and with how the Announce was worded it didn't seem to imply such? I know it's strange. But my brain does grow annoyed if a double standard is seemingly at play. But yeah, I won't lie this looks pretty bad from what you say. I'll honestly be fine if I get a temporary or a permanent ban for this tomfuckery I caused.
07-21-2024, 12:00 PM
i've honestly never even seen anyone mention right-wing ppl in the disc, why was it even brought up?
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