07-07-2021, 07:13 AM
Sorry, but I'm with Appo on this one. While there are problems with the current system, definitely, the ability for a full team to move before you do very quickly turns any fight into "which side can deal 800+ damage before the opponent can react".
Keep in mind that before the current system, "initiative races" were commonplace - people kept adding more and more Celerity even if the scaling has made it pointless to do so normally, all because their entire strategy revolved around them and potentially their team moving first. As such, a team moves first, and the other team very likely loses due to even the faster people needing to take 2-3 attacks at minimum before they move, which usually leaves them at critical health by the time the round ends, or potentially even just dead if your opponents had a low momentum movement option plus an AoE or two. Then, reasonably, the faster ones of the team that lost think that their Celerity is lacking, and add more Celerity to outspeed the other team themselves, and the cycle continues.
It was bad enough that people legitimately hardcapped Celerity and added a Quickdraw, all in the name of moving before anyone else.
In case you think I'm exaggerating... I'm really not. There were countless complaints of speed being the deciding factor a lot of the time, and they have been the primary reason for the current system. If anything, we should likely be asking for some problematic interactions to be fixed more than anything.
Keep in mind that before the current system, "initiative races" were commonplace - people kept adding more and more Celerity even if the scaling has made it pointless to do so normally, all because their entire strategy revolved around them and potentially their team moving first. As such, a team moves first, and the other team very likely loses due to even the faster people needing to take 2-3 attacks at minimum before they move, which usually leaves them at critical health by the time the round ends, or potentially even just dead if your opponents had a low momentum movement option plus an AoE or two. Then, reasonably, the faster ones of the team that lost think that their Celerity is lacking, and add more Celerity to outspeed the other team themselves, and the cycle continues.
It was bad enough that people legitimately hardcapped Celerity and added a Quickdraw, all in the name of moving before anyone else.
In case you think I'm exaggerating... I'm really not. There were countless complaints of speed being the deciding factor a lot of the time, and they have been the primary reason for the current system. If anything, we should likely be asking for some problematic interactions to be fixed more than anything.
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