[Ryu-Kazuki]

Grandpa » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:09 am[/url]"]

Soapy » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:27 pm[/url]"]And then you have a subclass.

This is literally exactly why melee classes need more skill slots. One melee class may have a lot of passives (IE Kensei), but have you even looked at Void Assassin?

I have. I do fine with 12 skill slots at lv 45.

Rendar » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:53 pm[/url]"]So, first off "Void Assassin", lets look at what skills they will grab as a melee VA. Fray, Cutthroat, Blotch, Void Gate, Void Veil, Veil Off, Deadly Arms, Advancing Flow, Backstab, and the other 3 innates.

Out of those, Cutthroat, Void Veil, Veil Off, Deadly Arms, and Advancing Flow will always be equipped, for the most part. Now we look at their .base. class Rogue. What would a VA want to take from their? All of the winds, Steal, Flank, Resourceful, and Wind Dancer. 5 from the base, 5 from the Promotion. That's 10 skills right there. If they've got 10 will < which most people get, but not all > they'll have 15 total skill slots. That means for whatever other class they have, they have to take only 5 skills. Not much to work off of, right?

Now lets look at Duelist. Sidecut, PG, L'au-Dela, Sharpen, Riposte, Fleur. That is 6 skills. Ghost would take 11 skill slots. if they wanted all that and wanted to team it up with something else, that leaves their other class .one. skill slot.Do you start to see a trend here..? Melee Classes, from just 1 class if they want to make the 'most of it' have to almost use every single skill slot to make it work. Leaving no room for a sub-class that isn't fucking kensei to work properly.

Look at all the skills I don't ever see anybody use, nor do I.

Fray, Blotch, Void Gate, Deadly Arms, Dark Shield.

And for Duelist, I don't use, Sidecut, PG, L'au-Dela, Sharpen.

I seem to do generally fine, granted most of the time I use normal attacks. Just because the skills are there, it doesn't mean you have to use them. If everybody and their mother had every skill in the game, there'd be no tactical diversity because everybody would flow to the meta and use the same thing all the time.

It's a day when Blues, Soapy, and I all agree with each other. But they're right, you're supposed to have limitations to be making choices; Mages on the other hand need their spells to be slightly diverse due to having so many types of resistances, absorbs, immunities overall; and on top of that, would die very easily without some skills that work hand in hand to make them viable in combat.

LBs I'm not so worried about because they suck. Their damage gets reduced at farther ranges, is pretty low to begin with, and can be pretty easily resisted with no increase to damage other than Spell Power.

Rendar » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:08 pm[/url]"]As LB/Evo I know I can toss out 2 spells because they're utter crap compared to their Evoker counterparts, but LB/Evo has a ton of spells at their disposal with a variety of elements.

It would provide 3-4 extra skill slots for Physical units, which is kind of .exactly. what we need.

First off, just because you have them, doesn't mean you can or would use them all. I sacrifice some of my offensive choices for utility skills because of the SP limit I have, and I end up with 2 LB spells, but then again, I don't use Evoker on that character, so that's it, I have two spells, which is two elements, elements that can easily be resisted with a scarf of pair of sunglasses, let alone ore material types, circle ring, etc.

Second, no, you don't. I do just fine as a melee with little to no slots, I have plenty of nice offensive, and utility / defense skills, but I don't t try to spam them every chance I get either. I balance up with normal attacks and actually try to combat without autohitting or suping myself up to overpower my enemy.

Yeah I may work differently than some other people, but I've played all sides of the field (minus MAs), so I don't see any problem.