Currently the variation of enchants for hand slots and shoe slots are not very good, both sporting only 2-3 enchants each, and they're not even that good.

Would it be possible to have a few pre-existing enchants that are never even used(But are still good) apply to hand/shoe slots as well?

Here are a few suggestions:

Hands slot:
Deathwish: Reaper's (increases harvest talent by 1, critical rate by 5%)
Oath Sign: Fated (Increases all stat parameters by 1, cannot be dropped when losing a battle.)
Firejewel: Fireheart (increases STR by 2, increases pyromancy by 1)
Icejewel: Iceheart (increases SKI by 2, increases cyromancy by 1)
Geojewel: Geoheart (increases DEF by 2, increases geomancy by 1)
Windjewel: Windheart (increases CEL by 2, increases aeromancy by 1)

Shoes Slot:
Shadow Hole: Pocketed (Increases packrat level by 2)
Warding Charm: Warding (Increases status resistance by 10%)
Precious Jewel: Jeweled (Increases statistical value of the charisma talent by 1)
Golden Wax: King's (Recovers 2HP every round, which is doubled when at 25% HP)

One of the primary complaints about the game, whether I agree with it or not, is that it is highly static. Things do not change often, or they change very slowly. Some believe that this is merely the byproduct of players not taking initiative to change things, but the purpose of this thread is not to discuss the validity of calling SL2 unchanging. Instead, the intention is to suggest a way Dev can continually add small (or large, at times) changes to the world every one or two weeks.

The idea is relatively simple: every week, when the game is updated, things that may have changed in the world are briefly discussed. This could range from the political climate of Sigrogana, to large scale events like a Black Eclipse. If Dev does not want to be deal with coming up with something to announce every week, it's viable to create a forum thread for people to discuss and vote for ideas.

Random examples I can imagine:

"Four brutal serial killings in Cellsvich have plagued the town with rampant fear. Few brave the streets when darkness falls, and rumors spread about the involvement of a Vampire. The citizens demand protection from the beings of undeath, and Vampires who are identified -- willingly or not -- are likely subjected to harsh disdain from just about the entirety of the continent."

-Tensions are high in the town of Cellsvich.
-Toleration for Vampires has been radically diminished, due to the recent killings.


"Tarson Guilded has begun renovating the Arena! His great coliseum closed for now, a temporary alcove for the pit fighters of the world has opened up in Law's End instead. He assures everyone it should not take long to be operational once more."

-Arena is closed and cannot be entered.
-A Tarson replacement is moved to Law's End to fight combatants and monsters, maintaining the normal schedule for Fight Day and Training Day. (People just port into the off screen Arena chambers for fights)

I'm making this topic to try and gauge if people would be for or against a subset of the new Destiny mechanic, with an even narrower focus than its parent. To keep it concise, here is the idea.


After selecting a destiny, characters may further spend 1 Legend Ink to place a point into a Fated Path. Fated Paths correspond to a promoted class; for example, one would be able to choose either Fated Path: Ghost or Fated Path: Kensei so long as they already had a point in Destiny: Duelist. The effects of this decision would be as follows:

1. The character's equipped class and subclass will both be the class selected for a Fated Path. Fated Path: Priest characters would only be able to equip Priest and Priest. (Skills from the base class would still be accessible)
2. The character's max level for that class rises to 60, from Destiny's 50. This should grant players the ability to get every -- or at least most -- skills for their one class.
3. The character is given one "Legendary SP." All promoted classes would gain 2 (maybe 3, but this grows out of hand quickly) Legendary Skills that can only be acquired by spending a Legendary SP. These abilities would be extremely powerful, serving to signify the character's mastery of their chosen path.

To give a more coherent idea of how this would function, I added a few random examples below.

Fated Path: Black Knight

Give us the option to not receive RP exp. Other than just throwing a ) or whatever into every single emote/say/wemote/lemote/shout/whatever you make ICly, you can't avoid getting EXP eventually from making posts ICly.

This would really just be for people who'd want to stay at like, level 30 or something for RP reasons. And don't want to bother with the aforementioned work around.

When using Bare Fists with Geldoren, nothing happens. It lets you input Urawaza commands, but, when the attack should happen, nothing occurs. It still spends FP and momentum, though.

It seems that Eviter is proccing for autohits that don't even use the weapon in general, as long as the weapon is equipped

For example:
Duelist is equipped with Eviter and a subweapon
Soldier is equipped with an axe.
Soldier goes to kick the Duelist away with the "Kick Skill"
Duelist will somehow parry "Eviter" despite Kick not being a weapon skill.


This will also happen for most autohits not using weapons, like Retaliate.

Entanglement trap and hand trigger still do not work correctly together, you use the skill and nothing happens, the animation will play but the trap does not go off.

I am triggered by this.

In the case of a weapon being mutated into a gun, for example a Narcus, they do not gain any rounds upon being mutated, is this intentional? As this raises a very un-counterable situation for anyone using these, facing a desperado with bullet barrier, as they can reflect 4 swings of a mutated weapon as it does not have any rounds.

For example:
Desperado DH vs BK/MG with a mutated Narcus turned into a gun.
BK/MG goes to hanging in to attack, but the hit is deflected by a bullet.
BK/MG goes to attack again but is deflected by a bullet again.


The mutated gun in question does not gain rounds upon being mutated, so it becomes impossible for it to even get through bullet barrier because the mutated gun does not have any Rounds, thus not counting for eating up all of Desperado's Bullets in Bullet Barrier(or stuff like one overcharge)

This seems more like an oversight than anything rather than a balance issue so I put it in bug reports.

Weapon used in question:

*raises flame shield because holy crap not a single thread of this nature has gone by without me getting flamed*

Real Talk: "Level with one class set for growths and reclass to your endgame build later" does not work with destinies. (Yes, Destinies are optional, but some classes benefit far more than others and I'm trying to offer suggestions to make each Destiny viable in it's own way.) And many classes don't even get growths their skills need. Case in point, multiple classes require Will for some skills and get either none, or at most, 25% from a main class only with no further Style Blending bonus. While, on paper, this may seem like something that many classes desperately need due to a lack of skill points and skill slots, the fact of the matter is that this is effectively a way for many Destinies to become nonviable in PVE, since the RNG is not your friend.

I simply wanted to maybe get a discussion going about possible tweaks to make destinies good all around instead of amazing for some classes (Especialy soldier, mage, and archer) and far less so for others (most notably martial artist not exactly having the most reliable promoted class growths; MA is either tacked on to anything else as a subclass, or reclassed to at high levels, lest your best stats resemble your enemy's lowest.)

This is a new topic for Lore Questions because the old one was about 26 pages. The format is roughly the same, but some guidelines;

1) Try and format your questions appropriately. As in, make it easy to read and answer.
2) Try and limit the number of questions you ask per thread. I don't mind answering them, but don't get crazy and ask me 20 things, especially if they require detailed answers.
3) Try to avoid asking extremely specific questions, such as 'Did anyone ever die of food poisoning in Cellsvich?'. Answering these is difficult, because not everything is set in stone, so giving a definitive answer on it not only restricts me in the future, but it might influence other players' character concepts that involve it.

That said, if you have any questions, you can post them in this thread! I will post answers at the end of the month/start of the next one.

Thanks! (And yes, if you had questions from the previous topic that I didn't answer before I closed it, you can post them here, but remember the formatting guideline.)